Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[miniGOINGS]

hmm...it seems that I misinterpreted the method a tad, but I meant learning algs for cases that I usually suck at for regular Roux solves.

Would that be for orientation, L+R placement, or the M-ring? I think I might switch to using this for all of my solves, seems pretty fast, I'm calculating the average move counts right now.

 

[StachuK1992]

hmm...it seems that I misinterpreted the method a tad, but I meant learning algs for cases that I usually suck at for regular Roux solves.

Would that be for orientation, L+R placement, or the M-ring? I think I might switch to using this for all of my solves, seems pretty fast, I'm calculating the average move counts right now.

umm...bad cases for all of those.
Spread throughout.
I'll dedicate an hour to getting 'algs' that I'll use tomm.
avg of 50: 36.52
sub35 tomm.

request:
What's NMCMLL all about?

 

[waffle=ijm]

hmm...it seems that I misinterpreted the method a tad, but I meant learning algs for cases that I usually suck at for regular Roux solves.

Would that be for orientation, L+R placement, or the M-ring? I think I might switch to using this for all of my solves, seems pretty fast, I'm calculating the average move counts right now.

umm...bad cases for all of those.
Spread throughout.
I'll dedicate an hour to getting 'algs' that I'll use tomm.
avg of 50: 36.52
sub35 tomm.

request:
What's NMCMLL all about?

non matching blocks.

 

[miniGOINGS]

request:
What's NMCMLL all about?

I suggest that you don't worry about it untill after you have learned full CMLL, and have waaay to much time on your hands.

 

[StachuK1992]

No. I hate that approach of 'one step at a time.'
I learned F2L, OLL, and PLL simultaneously. It's the way I work.
Over the next week or so, I'll be working on blocks, CMLL, NMCMLL (I get the main concept, and I've even applied it to 2x2FMC because I was bored), and some 'algs' for the last 6 edges.

 

[miniGOINGS]

No. I hate that approach of 'one step at a time.'
I learned F2L, OLL, and PLL simultaneously. It's the way I work.
Over the next week or so, I'll be working on blocks, CMLL, NMCMLL (I get the main concept, and I've even applied it to 2x2FMC because I was bored), and some 'algs' for the last 6 edges.

The time you save by doing NMCLL you will lose on recognition. I can guarentee it.

 

[StachuK1992]

No. I hate that approach of 'one step at a time.'
I learned F2L, OLL, and PLL simultaneously. It's the way I work.
Over the next week or so, I'll be working on blocks, CMLL, NMCMLL (I get the main concept, and I've even applied it to 2x2FMC because I was bored), and some 'algs' for the last 6 edges.

The time you save by doing NMCLL you will lose on recognition. I can guarentee it.

ugh...how many times must I say this?
The only 'times' that I actually care about are OH BLD Magic ItA.

I like this concept, and plan to get good at it eventually.
It's like learning F2L rather than keyhole. Harder to recog, but will be worth it in the long run.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I like this concept, and plan to get good at it eventually.
It's like learning F2L rather than keyhole. Harder to recog, but will be worth it in the long run.

Are you planning on being fully colour neutral as well?

 

[StachuK1992]

I like this concept, and plan to get good at it eventually.
It's like learning F2L rather than keyhole. Harder to recog, but will be worth it in the long run.

Are you planning on being fully colour neutral as well?

Hmm...not now. Too much of an inconvenience. hmm...I'll give it a try.
Eventually, I'll end up staying with just one color 'sheme,' probably, so I don't go too crazy


Basically, I don't think it'll be worth it in the long run.

 

[miniGOINGS]

but will be worth it in the long run

So you think that after your first block, scanning the entire cube, determining which of the 4 blocks is better to make, putting it together and trying to make up your recognition for an NMCMLL case is faster than starting the next block as soon as you finish the first and doing CMLL with lightning fast reaction?

 

[StachuK1992]

but will be worth it in the long run

So you think that after your first block, scanning the entire cube, determining which of the 4 blocks is better to make, putting it together and trying to make up your recognition for an NMCMLL case is faster than starting the next block as soon as you finish the first and doing CMLL with lightning fast reaction?

let me put this shortly.
I'm beginning to like FMC.

 

[spdcbr]

Hmmm? Where's the ZOMG everything is oriented CMLL set?

 

[waffle=ijm]

Hmmm? Where's the ZOMG everything is oriented CMLL set?

I'll post it up right now
EDIT: DONE! See first page

 

[spdcbr]

Hmmm? Where's the ZOMG everything is oriented CMLL set?

I'll post it up right now
EDIT: DONE! See first page

Thanks!

 

[spdcbr]

I think I'm going to leave fridrich and stick with roux now, I like the freedom on the blockbuilding! Only a week in and I already cut off 20 seconds!

 

[piemaster]

Interesting, I wonder why I never came across this on youtube, I watched the whole tutorial, I'm still in the process of learning full CMLL, I hope the anti-sune comes up soon.

 

[waffle=ijm]

Interesting, I wonder why I never came across this on youtube, I watched the whole tutorial, I'm still in the process of learning full CMLL, I hope the anit-sune comes up soon.

They're relatively new. About 3 months old. I've only been doing the CMLL cases this month

 

[piemaster]

Interesting, I wonder why I never came across this on youtube, I watched the whole tutorial, I'm still in the process of learning full CMLL, I hope the anit-sune comes up soon.

They're relatively new. About 3 months old. I've only been doing the CMLL cases this month

How would you organize the cases like on the site made by Gilles Roux?
http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Step_3.html

 

[waffle=ijm]

Interesting, I wonder why I never came across this on youtube, I watched the whole tutorial, I'm still in the process of learning full CMLL, I hope the anit-sune comes up soon.

They're relatively new. About 3 months old. I've only been doing the CMLL cases this month

How would you organize the cases like on the site made by Gilles Roux?
http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Step_3.html

What do you mean. Roux's charts were hard for me. I recognized them as CxLLs. The chart here shows which pieces move and how to recognize. Then you can apply the Roux CMLL algorithms for that case.

 

[Pancake's girl]

This is an excellent tutorial thank you.