spdcbr
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This? I don't know how to read it.
EDIT:And when you're making the blocks, do you use fridrich style to make pairs? SO confused.
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This? I don't know how to read it.
EDIT:And when you're making the blocks, do you use fridrich style to make pairs? SO confused.
byu
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First you look at which edges need to be oriented, then apply the corresponding alg.
spdcbr
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Well, that's pretty weird cause it's either UR, UL, or both.
EDIT: byu must be on the bus...
EDIT: byu must be on the bus...
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byu
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No, but I'm leaving very soon. If you have UR UL, do a U turn and now you have UF UB
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if you are still uncertain of how to do something, e-mail me at [email protected], saying what you don't understand, and I will try and make a short-ish video helping you, and put in on YouTUbe
if you are still uncertain of how to do something, e-mail me at [email protected], saying what you don't understand, and I will try and make a short-ish video helping you, and put in on YouTUbe
spdcbr
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Wow, you would do that for me? A lot of people are using the roux method thanks to waffle
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spdcbr
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Hi, and thanks for asking to help. Here are some thing i don't understand:
-Block building; I'm new to this since I used fridrich before this, but I don't and how to make the blocks. First you just make a pair fridrich style then, you postition the edge, you make another pair and attach it. What the heck is that all about?
-CMLL; how do you read the diagrams on the wiki!??!
-UR/UL edge Permuation; I still don't get this in every way
-Block building; I'm new to this since I used fridrich before this, but I don't and how to make the blocks. First you just make a pair fridrich style then, you postition the edge, you make another pair and attach it. What the heck is that all about?
-CMLL; how do you read the diagrams on the wiki!??!
-UR/UL edge Permuation; I still don't get this in every way
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alright. I'll have some time to work on this later, but I can give you a start now:
blockbuilding
-as far as this goes, I'll do some example solves, although I am also somewhat new to this method, and am not as good as others would be.
Nonetheless, I'll do my best
CMLL
-because I haven't any experience with CMLL, I can't supply you with the best algs or anything like that, but I can teach you how to understand these diagrams, and I'll explain it with a screenshot and some other stuff
UL/UR Edge perm
-This will be very easy to explain.
In total, I'm estimating a 5min video, and it should be done by like 6ish
spdcbr
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Thanks soo much. I need a lot of help on the block building. Right now it's
2ish. I can't wait.
waffle=ijm
Waffo
if you need help, PM me or email me ([email protected]) I will make it clearer if I have to
soccerking813
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I can try to explain it right now, but it will be difficult without doing a video.
The Blocks:
Personally, when I make the blocks I first start be positioning one edge in the correct place, and then putting that in the front-down position. After I do this, I do two corner/edge pairs Fridrich style, and put them in. For the second block, I put the one that I just solve on the left, and solve the second one the same way on the right. First put the bottom edge in, and then the two corner/edge pairs.
CMLL:
I can't really help you here either, because I do not use CMLL. I first orient the corners, then permute them. I think it would be best for you to start out with this, so that you get used to the other steps.
UL/UR Edge Permutation (EP):
Again, I don't use this, because I can not recognize it very well, but I understand how it works. There are a few basic steps. The first thing you try to do is get the two edges opposite each other in the same layer, while keeping correct edge orientation. There are two cases where this is not already done. The first case is where you have one of the edges in the U layer, and one in the D layer. If you have this, look to see if the edge that if on the bottom layer is in the front or back. If it is in the front, position the edge that is in the U layer in the UB position. If the edge which is on the bottom is in the back, position the edge that is in the U layer in the UF position. When you have one of these, do the alg: M' U2 M', and the two edges will be opposite each other, in either the U or D layer, and edge orientation will be preserved.
The second case is where they are in the UL/UF position, or any other two adjacent positions in the top layer. If you have this, simply do M2 and one will be in the bottom layer. You will then be able to do the step from the first case to get them into position.
Once you have the two edges opposite each other, get the two into the bottom layer. If they are on the U layer, put them in the UF and UB positions and do M2. Once they are in the bottom, you have to position the corners in the U layer so that it is easy to line them up with the two edges. To do this, you look first at what color the FD sticker is. You then look for which two corners in the U layer have the same color stick on them. Once you find these two corners, put both of them in the UBL and UBR position using U/U'/U2 turns. Once you have this, simply do M2, and the cornoers will match up with the edges. Then put the UL/UR edges and corners in their places using U turns.
Here is an example of how you would put the UL/UR edges in their positions after you have oriented the edges.
Do the scramble: M' U2 M2 U2 M U M' U2 M' U M' U2 M'
I will provide the moves to do each step I described above.
Get the UL/UR piece opposite each other: U' M' U2 M'
Connect the edges with their corresponding corners: It happens that this has already been done.
Adjust U face so that UL/UR edges are all solved: U
Edge Orientation:
You didn't ask for this, but you can have it anyway. I went through all of the algs previously posted for EO, and picked out the shortest ones. The UL/DB stuff is what pieces are disoriented.
2:
UF/UB M' U M U' M' U M'
DF/DB M U M U' M' U M'
UF/DB M' U M' U M U M'
UL/UB M' U M' U2 M' U M'
4:
All Top Layer: M' U2 M' U2 M' U M'
UR/UL/DF/DB M U2 M' U2 M' U M'
UL/UF/UR/DF M' U M'
UL/UB/DF/DB M2 U' M' U M'
6:
All of 'em: M' U M' U M U M' U2 M' U M'
I have only really memorized 4 or 5 of them, because you can turn them into other cases pretty easily.
Lol, took me a long time to type all of that, so I hope you might use at least some of it.
Good luck!
The Blocks:
Personally, when I make the blocks I first start be positioning one edge in the correct place, and then putting that in the front-down position. After I do this, I do two corner/edge pairs Fridrich style, and put them in. For the second block, I put the one that I just solve on the left, and solve the second one the same way on the right. First put the bottom edge in, and then the two corner/edge pairs.
CMLL:
I can't really help you here either, because I do not use CMLL. I first orient the corners, then permute them. I think it would be best for you to start out with this, so that you get used to the other steps.
UL/UR Edge Permutation (EP):
Again, I don't use this, because I can not recognize it very well, but I understand how it works. There are a few basic steps. The first thing you try to do is get the two edges opposite each other in the same layer, while keeping correct edge orientation. There are two cases where this is not already done. The first case is where you have one of the edges in the U layer, and one in the D layer. If you have this, look to see if the edge that if on the bottom layer is in the front or back. If it is in the front, position the edge that is in the U layer in the UB position. If the edge which is on the bottom is in the back, position the edge that is in the U layer in the UF position. When you have one of these, do the alg: M' U2 M', and the two edges will be opposite each other, in either the U or D layer, and edge orientation will be preserved.
The second case is where they are in the UL/UF position, or any other two adjacent positions in the top layer. If you have this, simply do M2 and one will be in the bottom layer. You will then be able to do the step from the first case to get them into position.
Once you have the two edges opposite each other, get the two into the bottom layer. If they are on the U layer, put them in the UF and UB positions and do M2. Once they are in the bottom, you have to position the corners in the U layer so that it is easy to line them up with the two edges. To do this, you look first at what color the FD sticker is. You then look for which two corners in the U layer have the same color stick on them. Once you find these two corners, put both of them in the UBL and UBR position using U/U'/U2 turns. Once you have this, simply do M2, and the cornoers will match up with the edges. Then put the UL/UR edges and corners in their places using U turns.
Here is an example of how you would put the UL/UR edges in their positions after you have oriented the edges.
Do the scramble: M' U2 M2 U2 M U M' U2 M' U M' U2 M'
I will provide the moves to do each step I described above.
Get the UL/UR piece opposite each other: U' M' U2 M'
Connect the edges with their corresponding corners: It happens that this has already been done.
Adjust U face so that UL/UR edges are all solved: U
Edge Orientation:
You didn't ask for this, but you can have it anyway. I went through all of the algs previously posted for EO, and picked out the shortest ones. The UL/DB stuff is what pieces are disoriented.
2:
UF/UB M' U M U' M' U M'
DF/DB M U M U' M' U M'
UF/DB M' U M' U M U M'
UL/UB M' U M' U2 M' U M'
4:
All Top Layer: M' U2 M' U2 M' U M'
UR/UL/DF/DB M U2 M' U2 M' U M'
UL/UF/UR/DF M' U M'
UL/UB/DF/DB M2 U' M' U M'
6:
All of 'em: M' U M' U M U M' U2 M' U M'
I have only really memorized 4 or 5 of them, because you can turn them into other cases pretty easily.
Lol, took me a long time to type all of that, so I hope you might use at least some of it.
Good luck!
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waffle=ijm
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if you can wait...say...1 1/2 months, I'll have my CMLL video set ready. I'll show how I recognize them and how I would execute them as well
deco122392
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ahhh ok (= This i want to see. I am using coll for the cmll step but I am still interest (and still lethargic)
waffle=ijm
Waffo
deco122392
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still looking forward to it
and mah mum just got a new camera, maby ill be able to help 
spdcbr
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Learning Roux is not off to an easy start...I'll practice fridrich for 1 1/2 months until you have the video up. So much for starting Roux, only if I could under stand better. Thanks to soccerking, I finally get how to do block building and UL/UR permutation. All because of that darn CMLL.
waffle=ijm
Waffo
Why don't you just do 2-look corners> you need 9 algs total. and you should already know them from 4 look last layer.
spdcbr
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I guess you meant to say sticker, but thought about this a lot and came to the conclusion thats it's the opposite color sticker instead of the same color "stick."Haha I make myself laugh.
I also believe that it should be M U2 M. You messed me up on that part too. I fould it very useful. Now I get the whole thing.
I also believe that...huh?...what?...you're telling me to shut up?...oh..okay....
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spdcbr
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I need a LOT of help with block building. Sorry for double posting, but i figured this had to have it's on post since the last one was too big.
irontwig
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I'm no master of Roux, and it isn't even my main method, but here's some stuff:
3x2x1a: If you can't plan the entire block during inspection, plan a 2x2x1 and track the other pieces. Knowing your colour scheme helps quite a bit, I would say.
3x2x1b: Keep in mind that you can use the M-slice for pairing up and splitting and LOCK AHEAD
