bonhomme
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wow, just look at the recent spike in roux usersits crazy how much it has grown over the past few weeks
I use Roux since last summer. It's cool to see more and more post about it.
Waffle's Roux Tutorial
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I use Roux since last summer. It's cool to see more and more post about it.
spdcbr
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Seems like Roux is a method that gets you fast, unlike fridrich which takes a LOT of pracitce. Too bad Roux has a limit in how fast it can go. Too many steps...
waffle=ijm
Waffo
what limits?
roux gets skips and lucky cases just like in fridrich so thats not a limitation.
blocks takes less moves than F2L. not a limitation either.
CMLL takes sub-2.5 sec for me and final step takes sub-3.5. I know Big Green is so much faster than that and he uses COLLs for ZB...not optimized for Roux and he can sub 1.5 the final step. I think that OLL/PLL is just equivalent to Roux's CMLL+final step.
the only limitation would be physical limitation and it doesn't even have to do with the method. Just how fast you can recognize and execute changes everything. Its just practice and is not about the method.
and Petrus has a lot more steps than fridrich or roux. but that's not stopping good petrus solvers from being extremely fast.
so I wouldn't argue that roux or ANY method has any limitations.
Ellis
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hahah wow,, cause its not like fridrich has limits on how fast it can go.
soccerking813
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Roux has limitations, just like any other method, but not more than any others. It is possible that it has fewer limitations than Fridrich, because of the block building/corners first style.
spdcbr
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Sure, fine, I'll try the method out. Only part that I don't understand is the blockbuilding. You didn't explain it clearly, but then again, the official one doesn't make sense either.
byu
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Blockbuilding is mostly intuition, see what is fastest. I usually make a 1x2x2 block and then build off of that (waffle's suggestion)
spdcbr
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Wow, it seems so that the Roux method has much more potential.
Roux:
http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Miscellaneous.html
Frdirich:
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/system.html#unique
Roux:
http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Miscellaneous.html
Frdirich:
http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/system.html#unique
waffle=ijm
Waffo
every method has a potential :rolleyes:
the only thing stopping people from getting faster on any method is ignorance
byu
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every method has a potential :rolleyes:
the only thing stopping people from getting faster on any method is ignorance
And Practice
And Persistence
And Passion
etc.
spdcbr
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every method has a potential :rolleyes:
the only thing stopping people from getting faster on any method is ignorance
I have a question on the orientation part. Step 4b is hard.
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spdcbr
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every method has a potential :rolleyes:
the only thing stopping people from getting faster on any method is ignorance
And Practice
And Persistence
And Passion
etc.
You're not on vacation yet?
EDIT: Sorry, I should have multi quoted.
byu
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every method has a potential :rolleyes:
the only thing stopping people from getting faster on any method is ignorance
I have a question on the orientation part. How does M' U M' oreint it? I'm so confused.
M' U M' orients the following edges
UF UL UR DF
Because M' makes the U face become F, and it puts DF onto the U face. Turning U is the equivalent of turning F, therefore orienting all of those pieces, and M' puts the centers back.
Oh, and also, my bus for my vacation leaves in about 2 hours.
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spdcbr
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every method has a potential :rolleyes:
the only thing stopping people from getting faster on any method is ignorance
I have a question on the orientation part. How does M' U M' oreint it? I'm so confused.
M' U M' orients the following edges
UF UL UR DF
Because M' makes the U face become F, and it puts DF onto the U face. Turning U is the equivalent of turning F, therefore orienting all of those pieces, and M' puts the centers back.
Oh, and also, my bus for my vacation leaves in about 2 hours.
Ih, i get it now, I guess we better talk some more before you leave, also, I don't get the UL and UR edge permutation. It's really hard.
byu
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If you go back a few pages, you'll find EO algs
spdcbr
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UHhhh...EO? Oh well, take a look at this:
http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Step_4.html
What does the white and yellow mean?
byu
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EO is edge orientation. The algs are a few pages back.
spdcbr
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I wish you would specify the page number...
byu
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spdcbr- go to post 137 in this thread
