Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[miniGOINGS]

wow,, i think im officially going to use roux,, FOR EVER!!! i like the freedom during the whole solve,,

 

[waffle=ijm]

YAY! another roux user

 

[holypasta]

this is the first roux tutorial i've seen other than the one on its official website (grrroux or something?)

i prefer video tutorials to written tutorials, so i never got around to learning roux.

i'll be sure to try this.

why so many videos? you couldn't have edited them together?

haha... you said "fridritch."

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

There was another Roux tutorial by a youtube guy named Qhorin, but he took it down.

 

[waffle=ijm]

There was another Roux tutorial by a youtube guy named Qhorin, but he took it down.

i think it was because he got lots of comments on how he was pronouncing Roux in all his vids

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

and probably too many questions about clearing up stuff in the video...

 

[waffle=ijm]

and probably too many questions about clearing up stuff in the video...

yah, I hope I explained everything that needs to be explained...just to keep questions at a minimum but I don't mind answering

 

[Lord Voldemort]

How fast are you with Roux?
I don't think I'll use it, as I'm already trying to master ZZ and Fridrich, but it seems nice.

 

[waffle=ijm]

How fast are you with Roux?
I don't think I'll use it, as I'm already trying to master ZZ and Fridrich, but it seems nice.

my best is 16.33 but i tend to land between 17-18.5



(roux>ZZ)

 

[StachuK1992]

LIES!!!!

since when do you avg. 18.5!!!!!
I'm still stuck at 22!!

EDIT:
I've actually been practicing Roux, and there is a chance of me switching...
Waffles; having about a 43s avg. on Roux, with 1 month, what do you think I could get down to?

Yes. I'm serious. I've quit ZZ.

 

[deco122392]

LIES!!!!

since when do you avg. 18.5!!!!!
I'm still stuck at 22!!

EDIT:
I've actually been practicing Roux, and there is a chance of me switching...
Waffles; having about a 43s avg. on Roux, with 1 month, what do you think I could get down to?

Yes. I'm serious. I've quit ZZ.

well thats no funn, zz has so much to offer (roux does aswell) whyd you quit?

 

[StachuK1992]

LIES!!!!

since when do you avg. 18.5!!!!!
I'm still stuck at 22!!

EDIT:
I've actually been practicing Roux, and there is a chance of me switching...
Waffles; having about a 43s avg. on Roux, with 1 month, what do you think I could get down to?

Yes. I'm serious. I've quit ZZ.

well thats no funn, zz has so much to offer (roux does aswell) whyd you quit?

I actually started learning the WV, and got about half of the cases, and just didn't feel that I could improve anything in ZZ, so it was kinda a let-down. I still feel as though I can improve in Fridrich, though, and with much less effort.

BTW, I actually just found out that I'm about 40sec. avg. for Roux.
I'm usually done the 2 (1x2x3) blocks at 23s

 

[waffle=ijm]

oh, I'm uploading a video on youtube right now of me doing a 17.30 average

it was a roux vs roux challenge
my break down
10sec> for both blocks
3sec>CMLL
5sec>the rest

I was stuck at 20s for a year...so @ stachu you'd be able to get it sub 30 in another month or two. from what I recall, I was doing sub 28 avg doing the permutations and orientation on the corners separate. I still do for the CMLL cases that I don't know and still get sub 20 times.

It was the second block that killed my solves so I improved that a lot with more look aheads

 

[StachuK1992]

oh, I'm uploading a video on youtube right now of me doing a 17.30 average

it was a roux vs roux challenge

Alright...Jules (and others), what is your advice for me?
First 2 blocks: 8s ea.
top corners-8 seconds
Edge-orientation-10 seconds (I think that this (and blocks) is/are my main problem)
Permutation-6s at most

 

[miniGOINGS]

oh, I'm uploading a video on youtube right now of me doing a 17.30 average

it was a roux vs roux challenge

Alright...Jules (and others), what is your advice for me?
First 2 blocks: 8s ea.
top corners-8 seconds
Edge-orientation-10 seconds (I think that this (and blocks) is/are my main problem)
Permutation-6s at most

corners should take less than 8,, it takes me 5 and i do 2 look
umm edge orientation could use work
you should look at getting about 3 seconds for

this is what i think,, but feel free to corect me waffle

 

[waffle=ijm]

oh, I'm uploading a video on youtube right now of me doing a 17.30 average

it was a roux vs roux challenge

Alright...Jules (and others), what is your advice for me?
First 2 blocks: 8s ea.
top corners-8 seconds
Edge-orientation-10 seconds (I think that this (and blocks) is/are my main problem)
Permutation-6s at most

Improve the edge orientation. that takes at most 5 seconds with the worse case if you cycle through them fast enough and once you get the hang of it you will instantly know which case comes next. and you can probably sub-2 permutation after that since there's only 3 cases.

for the blocks, use less moves. I know that doesn't sound very fast but you need to keep track of the pieces eliminate pauses.

corners I'm sure you can use the orientation you probably already know from ZZ and there's optimum algs for permutation. You need a total of 9 algs here. and can easily get sub-5

 

[StachuK1992]

alright, so I just figured out a way that I can do edges (orientation + permutation) at the same time, and average about 9 seconds with that right now, so I don't think that that is my problem...

So, pretty much, I've got blocks and corners left...

 

[waffle=ijm]

alright, so I just figured out a way that I can do edges (orientation + permutation) at the same time

How'd you do that??

anyway, keep practicing 2 look corners and when you're good with your blocks, do CMLL/COLL. fast corner algs are worthless if your blocks aren't fast enough since corners take 2-3 sec with CMLL. and if your blocks take 8 sec each then fast corners aren't gonna help much

 

[StachuK1992]

alright, so I just figured out a way that I can do edges (orientation + permutation) at the same time

How'd you do that??

anyway, keep practicing 2 look corners and when you're good with your blocks, do CMLL/COLL. fast corner algs are worthless if your blocks aren't fast enough since corners take 2-3 sec with CMLL. and if your blocks take 8 sec each then fast corners aren't gonna help much

Haha...Um...it's really intuitive...want me to make a tutorial?
I kinda take a quick second to get the bottom 2 edges, and work from there.
Right now, it takes me like 8 seconds, though
Not great, but getting better

 

[waffle=ijm]

alright, so I just figured out a way that I can do edges (orientation + permutation) at the same time

How'd you do that??

anyway, keep practicing 2 look corners and when you're good with your blocks, do CMLL/COLL. fast corner algs are worthless if your blocks aren't fast enough since corners take 2-3 sec with CMLL. and if your blocks take 8 sec each then fast corners aren't gonna help much

Haha...Um...it's really intuitive...want me to make a tutorial?
I kinda take a quick second to get the bottom 2 edges, and work from there.
Right now, it takes me like 8 seconds, though
Not great, but getting better

oh...i think i get what you mean