V Tips? (Pyra)

[VincentCuber]

I’m am currently in the process of learning intuitive L4E. I have been having a lot of trouble with blockbuilding the V. Do y’all have any tips for that?

 

[JDAW6]

I’m am currently in the process of learning intuitive L4E. I have been having a lot of trouble with blockbuilding the V. Do y’all have any tips for that?

Do untimed solves and see how the edges interact with the centers. Coming from a sub4 solver btw

 

[Enirolf]

I’m am currently in the process of learning intuitive L4E. I have been having a lot of trouble with blockbuilding the V. Do y’all have any tips for that?

Finding V's is in the beginning really hard indeed. Yes, experimenting with how the pieces interact is great, but there are so many possibilaties to how to solve and edge. That's why I recommend watching some example solves. And what I did with those vids was do the scramble, try if you find something good to begin with. Then play the vid a bit further until they say which color they would start on. Try specifically finding a good solution on that side if you didn't find something earlier. Then watch what the youtuber does and try to follow along and look where an edge for the V moves with every move. So that's how I kind of learnt it. And if you're just practising and you can't find anything for that scramble, use the solver function in cstimer for the most efficiënt V's and again, pay attention and look where the pieces go. If you practise enough you will recognise that there are just multiple ways to insert 2 edges and you'll recognise those cases like you do with cross on 3x3 or something. (Oh and this way too long message came from someone who averages 2.4)

 

[JDAW6]

how to solve and edge

typo and it’s a big one

Finding V's is in the beginning really hard indeed. Yes, experimenting with how the pieces interact is great, but there are so many possibilaties to how to solve and edge. That's why I recommend watching some example solves. And what I did with those vids was do the scramble, try if you find something good to begin with. Then play the vid a bit further until they say which color they would start on. Try specifically finding a good solution on that side if you didn't find something earlier. Then watch what the youtuber does and try to follow along and look where an edge for the V moves with every move. So that's how I kind of learnt it. And if you're just practising and you can't find anything for that scramble, use the solver function in cstimer for the most efficiënt V's and again, pay attention and look where the pieces go. If you practise enough you will recognise that there are just multiple ways to insert 2 edges and you'll recognise those cases like you do with cross on 3x3 or something. (Oh and this way too long message came from someone who averages 2.4)

also I feel like V’s are so overrated 50% if the time I don’t even make a V. Honestly centers +1 then inserting an edge can help influence L4E

 

[VincentCuber]

Thanks for all the tips!

 

[Enirolf]

also I feel like V’s are so overrated 50% if the time I don’t even make a V. Honestly centers +1 then inserting an edge can help influence L4E

Maybe that's a big reason why I am like 1.5 seconds faster than you are. Yes, you could influence l4e that way, but then recognition wil take longer. So yes, you could very well do what jdaw6 does, but if you want to become sub 3.5 or even quite a bit faster, I recommend proper V's

 

[VincentCuber]

1 more question:
On the case where there are 2 edges with the same color as the center, I do the alg and it gives me this case. How do I stop this from happening?

 

[precompsubwr]

1 more question:
On the case where there are 2 edges with the same color as the center, I do the alg and it gives me this case. How do I stop this from happening?

these cases?

^ R U R' U R' L R L'‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ^ L' U' L U' L R' L' R


or these cases


^ R U' R2' L R L'‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ^ L' U L2 R' L' R

 

[VincentCuber]

I mean R’ L R L2 U L and it’s mirror

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

V tips: "just do the v in the fewest moves possible as fast as you can" - some complete beginner (Definitely not me, ok yea me)

 

[Enirolf]

I mean R’ L R L2 U L and it’s mirror

This case (and mirror)??
And if so, which alg are you using? I think there is a mistake in the alg you sent, it's L2'. Or is it just typo?

 

[VincentCuber]

Yes

 

[Enirolf]

Whoops, while I was editing my message, you responded

 

[Averageof12]

1 more question:
On the case where there are 2 edges with the same color as the center, I do the alg and it gives me this case. How do I stop this from happening?
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Unrelated comment: Great T-shirt!

 

[Enirolf]

Yes

anyway, what is now really the problem? Did you find an alg that doesn't work or what?
(I'm going to sleep now, because I need to wake up in a little over 6 hours to go to a comp)

 

[VincentCuber]

anyway, what is now really the problem? Did you find an alg that doesn't work or what?
(I'm going to sleep now, because I need to wake up in a little over 6 hours to go to a comp)

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Alg is L R’ L’ R2 U’ R’ for the case

 

[precompsubwr]

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Alg is L R’ L’ R2 U’ R’ for the case

you're doing the wrong alg. it's R' L R L'

 

[bldcuber314]

One tip I would give is to practice a bit doing 'cross' while solving one edge, and doing an LBL or L4E solve, before moving on to 2 edges. You'll quickly find patterns that will help you make Vs. Good luck!

 

[GeographicalCuber]

I think about it sort of like making an xcross on 3x3, you want to see patterns when you move the centres to the bottom and add in extra moves to insert the edges while doing that.

 

[VincentCuber]

Thank you everyone