US Nationals 2013 [Cancelled]

[rubixwiz031]

If funding an annual US Nationals competition is the problem, it may be an idea to have a biennial North American Championship in the years between the Worlds. This will give the organisers more time to find funding. As far as I know, there is no continental championship for North America.

Too late. It is done.

 

[cubernya]

Too late. It is done.

I can nearly guarantee that if there is enough funding and support, there could be a Nats 2013. Not to mention that his suggestion was to only have it in the "even" years, which wouldn't include 2013

 

[TheAwesomeAlex]

that sucks. if the world championships is in usa that will make up for it

 

[Vincents]

If people want to put together proposals, some things to keep in mind:

- We've generally run Nationals with upwards of 50-60 full-time staff members. If people are only judging/running/scrambling/etc. part time, it'll take even more than that.
- Financial viability is just as important. There's no point in using a great venue if it's going to cost $50000 in rental fees alone. Part of the "support" we talk about is getting organizations, companies, or other entities to financially support the project in some way.
- Infrastructure of the surrounding area (this would go under "venue", I suppose). Remember that it's not just a few hundred competitors (and their families!) coming to your stage. All those guys have to fly in, some from across the Atlantic and/or Pacific Oceans. All those people have to live somewhere (cheap!), and have to have ways of easily getting to your venue. It's great if a venue holds 1000 people, but if those people can't find any parking, and there's no subway station or bus hub next to your auditorium or museum or whatever, that doesn't really work out either. Also, if I would have to transfer 2 or more times just to find a flight to get to the nearest airport, that's going to discourage a lot of people from going. Places like Las Vegas, NV are good. Places like Wasilla, Alaska might have more problems in that respect.
- The human cost on you and your staff: Running a competition ican be EXHAUSTING. Whoever is in charge basically spends 3-5 days freaking out about one crisis after another. Depending on how you've assigned responsibilities to your staff, that stress can permeate down. If you've ever run a competition before, now you're being asked to do one much longer during the day, dealing with 10 times as many people, over the course of 3-4 days. That stress adds up. This is a full-time commitment, and should be treated as such.

 

[Sa967St]

Should have bought more plushies.

 

[Vincents]

Yeah, it doesn't look too good if we have to practically give away the plushies (and still not sell out)

 

[aronpm]

Why haven't you already realised that selling plushies is a waste of money?

 

[drewsopchak]

Why haven't you already realised that selling plushies is a waste of money?

Plushies are awsome.

 

[HelpCube]

The only logical reason for this would be if Worlds was in the US next year. There's no point in having Nationals and Worlds if it's in the same country, so it would make sense.

 

[aronpm]

Plushies are awsome.

I think getting money to help the competition is more important than letting some kids have "awesome" plushies.

 

[cubernya]

The only logical reason for this would be if Worlds was in the US next year. There's no point in having Nationals and Worlds if it's in the same country, so it would make sense.

Now we're thinking

 

[Cool Frog]

While US is in the world. I would much rather have worlds in another country where I can be somewhere other than my tiny window view of the world.

Me being selfish.

 

[Vincents]

While US is in the world. I would much rather have worlds in another country where I can be somewhere other than my tiny window view of the world.

Me being selfish.

Aren't there places in the US you haven't been?

 

[guinepigs rock]

So will there ever be a us nationals again. Iv never been and want to go.

 

[Julian]

Aren't there places in the US you haven't been?

Is that a confirmation?

 

[Vincents]

Is that a confirmation?

Pointing out a flaw in reasoning. Saying that you don't like worlds in the US because it means you can't see a place that is different from what you've seen of the world implies that you've seen everything in the US. Otherwise, theoretically, every location Cool Frog had never been in the WORLD would offer him a new window to view through, and every location Cool Frog has ever been to, regardless of whether it is in the US or elsewhere, would be unsuitable as a Nationals location, by Cool Frog's standards.

More simply, if Cool Frog has been to, say, Toronto, and he makes the argument he put forth several posts back, every place in the world outside the US, including Toronto, would be suitable for offering him a new view of the world. But we know that he has been to Toronto, and therefore Toronto would not offer him a new view of the world. Therefore, we can offer Toronto as a counterexample to his reasoning.

 

[Cool Frog]

Aren't there places in the US you haven't been?

I am talking of a place significantly different than the US.
The people and cultures of different countries are MUCH different than US.
I have been to a lot of places in US and it would be much different to be in another country than in america.


You are trying to say that the difference between San Diego and Chicago is the same as comparing San Diego to Thailand?

 

[hcfong]

I am talking of a place significantly different than the US.
The people and cultures of different countries are MUCH different than US.
I have been to a lot of places in US and it would be much different to be in another country than in america.

What about Guam? It's US territory, but probably very different from where you live. Or if you mean proper US, what about Hawaii?

 

[Slowpoke22]

Maybe the people who said it was because of lack of funding and support did so because they wanted to inform the public that there was not going to be a nats '13, but didn't want to reveal the location for Worlds.

This

 

[Godmil]

I really hope it's because of Worlds. Would be a sad state for cubing if US Nats couldn't be held for other reasons.