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the new diansheng and the tornado look like GAN wannabes, which I think is sad, but MoYu and YJ, who are some of the bigger companies, be themselves, release cubes that look like their own, and do very well with them. The smaller brand market is at risk of having the soul sucked out of them
GAN havent really put a stamp on black internals and roundish centre caps. That's just your image of a typical GAN cube which ironically has only featured on a single GAN cube in the last 12 months (don't quote me on that). Black internals feel smooth, and the rounded centre cap design may be helping with reverse cornercutting I'm not too sure. All functional choices, but it also doesnt hurt to make the cubes look premium, and the fact that they look like your perception of a GAN cube is probably coincidental.
 
Sounds perfect for me! I've been considering getting the WRM 2021 but was reluctant because i really didn't want all of the extra accessories and stuff. (I already have more than enough of those lol)
I also think its kinda stupid how much extra crap they throw in there. The only thing I ever used in the wrm's extra box was the springs since I already had a million screwdrivers and a tensioning tool
 
Some beginner thoughts on cubes. I believe I have done a fairly extensive online research of the current cubes. I now have 11 cubes, after having started cubing for 3 and half months, including 2 Tornado V2's, 3 RSM3 2020 (black, unstickered and one with added magnets), a Tengyun M, 2 YJ Zhilongs, a GoCube, and also a WRM 2021. (This is getting expensive!) I have not seen or bought a Gan yet, but checked numerous reviews. The only one I have real interest to play with is the Gan 354 V2, as I prefer smaller/lighter cubes, but it is apparently not the best cube (adjustability, performance and value). The Gan 11 M Duo is also somewhat interesting, with its super light weight and highly rated performance, but it's also not so adjustable, not small and not so affordable. The 11 M Pro sounds great but I probably will never buy a cube so expensive, even though I can afford it. Other more affordable and great performers like the Valk Elite, GTS 3, etc are interesting to read about, and I am sure they are great, but I prefer a cube that is quieter, smaller, lighter and smoother. My finger muscles actually feel sore when I go to bed, if I have done more than 40 solves that day (with many of them slow solves). I hope this is just a teething issue. I think I have already checked out all the suitable cubes, and it is unlikely that there can be any cube that is significantly better than what we already have now to be compelling enough for me to buy, especially given my beginner needs. One exception. The WRM smartcube sounds very interesting and I hope they can keep the size and weight down, and have robust software, and they would update the software to fix problems.

The Tornado V2 is my favourite. The similar WRM 2021 is also fine but it loses out, just slightly in all the areas that are most important to me - light weight, smoothness, quality feel, ease of adjustment. I know, for ultimate tweaking, the WRM will obviously be better, as it can be fully disassembled. I find that the Tornado has many little design touches to be more than a copycat, though I won't say it has a soul. The design of its spring adjustment system with the use of a single "harpoon" tool is clearly one, so convenient. MoYu was regarded as great for its innovative spring adjustments (clockwise and anti-clockwise). Unlike the MoYu's spring tension adjustment system, it is not necessary for the Tornado user to keep turning anti-clockwise until you feel a bump to know where your current setting is. One can actually see the settings, which are coloured differently. Its magnet adjustment screws are the best IMO as its screw settings are so easy to see and adjust. It may not be as original in some other areas, but it's fine when you learn and build on top of each other's ideas. So, it is as quiet as the Tengyun M, which was regarded as the quietest cube of all until now. Many commented that it feels like a Gan, being so smooth. These are not as original, but to achieve all these at a new price point is unique and that is something the other cube makers can try to copy X-Man. I don't think I need another dumb cube (not a smartcube) for a long time, unless X-Man would release a stickered version of the Tornado V2. :)
 
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Which cube do you think is better, the CH X-Man Tornado V2, or the Gan 11 M Pro?
dont forget about the new ch wrm 2021!

 
The new MoYu Smart cube is...

$70, don't think many people will go for it. That is more than $40 over the wrm 2021 (what it is based on)
It sucks for the people who pre-ordered it right away, because it’s only $65 now. Not a huge decrease, but for some reason those 5 dollars make it seem way more reasonable. Maybe because lots of people have already bought the 11 Pro, so they shouldn’t have an issue with buying this.
 
It sucks for the people who pre-ordered it right away, because it’s only $65 now. Not a huge decrease, but for some reason those 5 dollars make it seem way more reasonable. Maybe because lots of people have already bought the 11 Pro, so they shouldn’t have an issue with buying this.
I’d definitely rather buy a smart cube (that seems to be just as good as any moyu 3x3) for 65 bucks than spend 5 more on a regular Gan 3x3. It’s definitely a steal if you look at it that way
 
GAN havent really put a stamp on black internals and roundish centre caps. That's just your image of a typical GAN cube which ironically has only featured on a single GAN cube in the last 12 months (don't quote me on that). Black internals feel smooth, and the rounded centre cap design may be helping with reverse cornercutting I'm not too sure. All functional choices, but it also doesnt hurt to make the cubes look premium, and the fact that they look like your perception of a GAN cube is probably coincidental.
I think Gan have had roundish centers since before at least 2015 as far as I know. Not that they have a patent or monopoly on this, afaik....
 
promising


I agree with some of the comments in the video and I really hope that Moyu realises that - Software is King. That's what will distinguish the product from all the others. Hardware is already excellent even in cheap cubes. I hope all the cube makers will take software more seriously. Stability of connection, lag in updates of display, bugs and software updates will be key to success. I bought what was the smartcube with the most reliable software at the time a couple of months ago after a detailed research, and even that leaves many things to be desired, esp Updates and Fixes, or Continuing Support. Use of standardised definitions will also be important. For example, my smartcube treats a U2 as 2 turns and gives me distorted figures for number of turns and hence TPS. Also distorted info regarding efficiency of solves, like the number of turns for each stage. I have since learnt, from this forum, that a U2 should be counted as 1 turn.
 
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I agree with some of the comments in the video and I really hope that Moyu realises that - Software is King. That's what will distinguish the product from all the others. Hardware is already excellent even in cheap cubes. I hope all the cube makers will take software more seriously. Stability of connection, lag in updates of display, bugs and software updates will be key to success. I bought what was the smartcube with the most reliable software at the time a couple of months ago after a detailed research, and even that leaves many things to be desired, esp Updates and Fixes, or Continuing Support. Use of standardised definitions will also be important. For example, my smartcube treats a U2 as 2 turns and gives me distorted figures for number of turns and hence TPS. Also distorted info regarding efficiency of solves, like the number of turns for each stage. I have since learnt, from this forum, that a U2 should be counted as 1 turn.
I’ve been an owner of the go cube edge for over a year now, and I feel as if the software actually got downgraded when the Red Bull event was happening. Now it looks not as clean and more compacted. I don’t know why they did this because it was perfect before. It also counts a u2 or m as 2 moves
 
The GoCube is not bad in terms of software but they really should keep up and improve it, and of course, I hope they will use a more traditional shape in the next one, and make the cube turn more like other speedcubes. I found it too slippery to turn fast.

I believe the cube makers looking to sell at premium prices should invest in information technology staffing and longer term strategies considering smartcubes, in stead of trying to design cubes with lots of tools, accessories, spare parts, fancy cases and bags, display stands, fancy wipe cloth, ...
 
I feel like we are hopefully within a year or so of a smart cube that I can really get behind. It seems like I have had issues with every one so far:

Gan iCarry: lack of gyroscope makes it pretty pointless to me, not a fan of the turning

Rubik's connected: overly strong magnets and catching

Gan 356 i2: App has had so many issues working properly


GoCube edge: can't stand the feel of it/it's shape

Giiker 3x3: don't own so can't comment
 
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