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My hope is that once one company makes a good clock they will basically dominate clock hardware, which might drive up competitiveness and cause other brands to develop their own clocks. So hopefully this is a step in that direction. I don't care about clock much but I think if it's in the WCA it might as well have good hardware.
 

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Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't they be legal?

EDIT: I don't know much about clock, or even have a clock, for that matter, so don't get mad at me if there is something obviously wrong with them. :p
In the past, if your clock wasn't symmetric then it wasn't allowed. I can't remember what the actual name of the term is but basically the clock should look the same from all rotations aside from the 12 O'clock markers and a logo, but now the regs allow for the orientation to be distinguishable (I think so). The Design in the top middle has circles that are different sizes and in different places, so they are distinguishable but that should be allowed with the modern regs.
We don’t know if they are good yet and I don’t think we should get to excited about a clock yet
At worst ist just a reskinned Lingao that has screws to seal it and magnets. So basically its the best on the market already. When there aren't any clocks that are usable competitively out of the box it's hard to make the case that the shengshou clock isn't something worth getting excited for. It's very hard to do worse than the current Lingao and Rubik's, both are companies that have no business making speedcubes. Although the Mr. M 6 and 7 were awful, clock is a whole new ballpark. As long as shengshou even makes this clock its a guarantee to be the best on the market, at least out of the box. Screwing this up would take more effort than making it slightly better than existing clocks.
My hope is that once one company makes a good clock they will basically dominate clock hardware, which might drive up competitiveness and cause other brands to develop their own clocks. So hopefully this is a step in that direction. I don't care about clock much but I think if it's in the WCA it might as well have good hardware.
Well, that's what happened with Qiyi and square-1, but it took a long time for Yuxin to make a square-1 that could compete with Qiyi's. Seeing how clock is much less popular I don't think that any other companies are even going to try aside from maybe moyu since they already had a clock in the works from senhuan.
 

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That could have been a profile post, but whatever. Go to www.speedsolving.com/@[email protected] to see the conversation (in case you're interested :p ).
In the past, if your clock wasn't symmetric then it wasn't allowed. I can't remember what the actual name of the term is but basically the clock should look the same from all rotations aside from the 12 O'clock markers and a logo, but now the regs allow for the orientation to be distinguishable (I think so). The Design in the top middle has circles that are different sizes and in different places, so they are distinguishable but that should be allowed with the modern regs.
That sounds really confusing, but as long as it's comp legal and has good reviews, I'll buy it and I won't care.
At worst ist just a reskinned Lingao that has screws to seal it and magnets. So basically its the best on the market already. When there aren't any clocks that are usable competitively out of the box it's hard to make the case that the shengshou clock isn't something worth getting excited for. It's very hard to do worse than the current Lingao and Rubik's, both are companies that have no business making speedcubes. Although the Mr. M 6 and 7 were awful, clock is a whole new ballpark. As long as shengshou even makes this clock its a guarantee to be the best on the market, at least out of the box. Screwing this up would take more effort than making it slightly better than existing clocks.
I feel like it shouldn't be that hard to make a decent clock, but you're right about it basically already being the best on the market (besides the maybe @PicubeShop's and @CornerCutter's, I don't know, like I said, I don't have a clock, so I have never used one and have nothing to compare them to).
Well, that's what happened with Qiyi and square-1, but it took a long time for Yuxin to make a square-1 that could compete with Qiyi's. Seeing how clock is much less popular I don't think that any other companies are even going to try aside from maybe moyu since they already had a clock in the works from senhuan.
One of the main reasons that clock isn't popular is because there isn't much good hardware. If Gan, Qiyi, Moyu, Yuxin, Shengshou, and Dayan (or even just half of those) made clocks, there would be competition in the market, therefore more clocks being sold, which leads to more people competing in the event in comps, because clock becomes fun to practice and it is easy to get a good one.
 
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One of the main reasons that clock isn't popular is because there isn't much good hardware. If Gan, Qiyi, Moyu, Yuxin, Shengshou, and Dayan (or even just half of those) made clocks, there would be competition in the market, therefore more clocks being sold, which leads to more people competing in the event in comps, because clock becomes fun to practice and it is easy to get a good one.
Eh, I'm not sure about that. Just because there is good hardware doesn't mean its fun. I'm glad that the shengshou clock will make the event much more accessible to newer cubers that can't afford to buy a pre magnetized one or don't have enough experience to lube and mod their own. Clock is fun, but it's very different from every other event. For the average "3x3 is all I do" cuber clock isn't something they would want to do, and sadly there aren't a lot of cubers out there that enjoy the weirder events, and making new hardware won't instantly make an event extremely popular. At most I expect a 2x turnout in certain areas.
 

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that's not even true for cars. plenty of people are driving around 90s or 2000s Hondas and Toyotas.
Because its cheap, I promise you that 99.5% of drivers would definitely rather drive a car model that is newer, the only exception is old car enthusiasts.
Unlike cubes though, car parts do break down over time and natural use.
So I can still use my stripped qiyi square-1 since cubes apparently dont break down? I guess I was just imagining the insane instability, lockups, looseness, and pops after all.
 

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Because its cheap, I promise you that 99.5% of drivers would definitely rather drive a car model that is newer, the only exception is old car enthusiasts.
Of course you would rather drive a new car if I gave you the choice at no cost, but my point was that the old car still functions perfectly well.

So I can still use my stripped qiyi square-1 since cubes apparently dont break down?
This is clearly the exception not the rule. That product was flawed to begin with and had nothing to do with its age. Cubes that are not flawed, like the Valk 3 or GAN air whatever, are perfectly usable.
 

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Because its cheap, I promise you that 99.5% of drivers would definitely rather drive a car model that is newer, the only exception is old car enthusiasts.

So I can still use my stripped qiyi square-1 since cubes apparently dont break down? I guess I was just imagining the insane instability, lockups, looseness, and pops after all.
You care too much about squan. Most cubes don’t break down, that is a very rare example, kind of like if you used ash ketchum or Peter Pan as a counterexample for how kids grow old.
 
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This is clearly the exception not the rule. That product was flawed to begin with and had nothing to do with its age. Cubes that are not flawed, like the Valk 3 or GAN air whatever, are perfectly usable.
They are useable right now, but they wont be in the future. No matter how hard you try its inevitable that something will break or the plastic will give out.
You care too much about squan. Most cubes don’t break down, that is a very rare example, kind of like if you used ash ketchum or Peter Pan as a counterexample for how kids grow old.
Yes, I do, and yes, they do. Cubes dying is something that is very common among those who use 1 cube for a long time. The plastic will die, the core will strip, the pieces will break. No matter what cube you choose it's impossible to get one to last forever.

EDIT: Have you watched HOOK? Peter Pan is an adult in that movie and therefore your counterargument is invalid :cool:


just a prank bro
 
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Of course you would rather drive a new car if I gave you the choice at no cost, but my point was that the old car still functions perfectly well.


This is clearly the exception not the rule. That product was flawed to begin with and had nothing to do with its age. Cubes that are not flawed, like the Valk 3 or GAN air whatever, are perfectly usable.
You care too much about squan. Most cubes don’t break down, that is a very rare example, kind of like if you used ash ketchum or Peter Pan as a counterexample for how kids grow old.
I come here for upcoming puzzles and get cars, hook and Peter pan? Odd.
 
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