The Roux "Example Solve" Game!

[pewpewrawr]

grr my SB was so bad, but the rest was so awesome i just couldn't bring myself to improve it.

 

[waffle=ijm]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

y R2 F U' r z' U' R r B'
U' M' U R U R2 U' R2 M U M' U' R
U F U' L' U R2 U' L U R' Lw' U' x'
M U M' U2 M2 U' M2 U2 M U2


gross

Solution

 

[Renslay]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

I decided to add some commentary this time.

z'
B2 M' B' E U M' U2 B (8) // average
U R' U' R M U' R U' R U' M' r U r' (14) // ahhh no D: y u so long?
R U R' U' R' F R F' (8) // yay unintentional 1 look
U2 M U2 M' U M2 U2 R2 (8) // yay eo skip and super eazy peazy LSEEEzy

38 total

btw, epic f2b renslay.

Thanks.
That E' is an E in your FB.

For your second block, I would use:
r' U r M' U M' r U2 R U' r' (11)
And it's a matching color block with the same CMLL!

 

[pewpewrawr]

Woops I always forget which way E and S go lol. Thanks for the SB solution, I've worked so hard at it lately but it still just screws me over like that. :<

 

[Renslay]

Woops I always forget which way E and S go lol. Thanks for the SB solution, I've worked so hard at it lately but it still just screws me over like that. :<

I used to be get confusing with the directions too, but then somebody posted this:
All the slice moves without the apostrophe are going in the direction of normal text reading!
So M is from up to down, and S and E from left to right!

 

[pewpewrawr]

I used to be get confusing with the directions too, but then somebody posted this:
All the slice moves without the apostrophe are going in the direction of normal text reading!
So M is from up to down, and S and E from left to right!

:O amazying, i had no idea.

 

[AKOM]

My first try (speedsolve solution):

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

x2 y'
U B2 D2 Rw U2 Rw' F B2 U Rw B' // FB(11), bad FB
U2 R' U R U' R' U2 R' U M U2 M' U' R // SB(14)
U2 F R U R' U' F' // CMLL(7), lucky cmll
U M' U M' U' M' U' M' U M U2 M2 U' M2 U2 // LSE(15), Ok for a speedsolve

47 STM


First FMC solution

y x
F2 R F2 U R U' B // FB(7)
U M' R' U M2 Rw U' R // SB(8)
U R2 U' R F2 R' U R F2 R // CMLL(10)
U M' U' M U' M' U2 M2 U // LSE(9)

34 STM (40 HTM )

 

[Renslay]

My first try (speedsolve solution):

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

x2 y'
U B2 D2 Rw U2 Rw' F B2 U Rw B' // FB(11), bad FB
U2 R' U R U' R' U2 R' U M U2 M' U' R // SB(14)
U2 F R U R' U' F' // CMLL(7), lucky cmll
U M' U M' U' M' U' M' U M U2 M2 U' M2 U2 // LSE(15), Ok for a speedsolve

47 STM

First block with the same colors:
y' x'
R F2 R2 E2 L F' R' r' F (9)
or:
y' x2
R D2 U R2 S2 M r' F (8)
Can't see any better; and S2 M seems uncomfortable.

LSE:
U M' U M' U2 M U M' U2 M2 U' M U2 (13)

But it is a pretty good solution for a speedsolve.

 

[DeeDubb]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

y2
F2 L U' B F Rw U x // FB (7)
R2 U R U2 Rw U M2 Rw U R' // SB (10)
F R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' F' // CMLL (14)
M2 U' M' U' M U M' U2 M' U M2 U E2 M E2 M' // L6E (16)
// STM 47

 

[AKOM]

First block with the same colors:
y' x'
R F2 R2 E2 L F' R' r' F (9)
or:
y' x2
R D2 U R2 S2 M r' F (8)
Can't see any better; and S2 M seems uncomfortable.

LSE:
U M' U M' U2 M U M' U2 M2 U' M U2 (13)

But it is a pretty good solution for a speedsolve.

I couldn't see any better solution in the inspection time with my speedsolve colors.
In the first block in never do S or E turns even if i see it, i don't know why but the change of the centers confuses me.


Any suggestions for my FMC solution?

 

[Renslay]

Any suggestions for my FMC solution?

I played with it for 20 minutes, but couldn't any better CMLL/LSE pair (including changing the last R to Rw in the end of the SB).
Both your CMLL and R2 D' R U2 R' D R U2 R does not change the orientation of the edges, so maybe you can try to orient the edges during the SB.

 

[AKOM]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

Another solution, but the LSE is sooo long

x' y
R' U2 F U' R U B' Rw B' // FB(9)
U2 R U S' U' S R U M' U' Rw' // SB(11-2)
Rw U R' U Rw U2 R' // CMLL(7-2)
U M' U' M U' M' U M U2 M' U' M2 U2 // LSE(13)

36 STM

 

[Shah]

My solution.
U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

z' y //Inspection
F2 R F2 U R U' B // FB(7)
U M' R' U R M U' r //SB(8)
F2 D' F U2 F' D F U2 F //CMLL(9)
U M U M' U2 M U2 M U M' U2 M' U2 M2 //LSE (14)

Is there any other shorter LSE possible?

38STM, 47HTM

 

[Shah]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

y R2 F U' r z' U' R r B'
U' M' U R U R2 U' R2 M U M' U' R
U F U' L' U R2 U' L U R' Lw' U' x'
M U M' U2 M2 U' M2 U2 M U2


gross

Solution

Your LSE seems too pro. Can you make a text or video tutorial on how you do it?

 

[TheNextFeliks]

Scramble:
U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2
y2 x' L2 D2 x U r' D2 U R D [8/8]
U R U M2 U R M U M' U' r [11/19]
R U2 R' U' R U' R2 U2 R U R' U R [13/32]
M2 U' M2 U2 M' U2 M [7/39]

Really interesting solve for me. What do you guys think?

 

[Lazy Einstein]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

x2 y
D L U' L' D U L U L' U' L' U' L U2 L' U' L // FB // 17/17 Woah lol
U2 R' U R U' R U R' U B U' B' U' R' U' R // SB // 16/33 Noob building blocks here!
R U' L' U R' U' L // Orient corners // 7/40
L’ U2 L2 U L2’ U L2 U2 L’ // Permute corners // 9/49
M U' M2 U' M U M' U2 M // F2L? lol // 9/58
M' U M U M' U2 M U' M' U' M U' // ELL // 12/70

This solve was possible thanks to Deedubb's beginner Roux tutorial. Thanks Deedubb. I can do Roux-ish style solves now.

 

[DeeDubb]

U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2

x2 y
D L U' L' D U L U L' U' L' U' L U2 L' U' L // FB // 17/17 Woah lol
U2 R' U R U' R U R' U B U' B' U' R' U' R // SB // 16/33 Noob building blocks here!
R U' L' U R' U' L // Orient corners // 7/40
L’ U2 L2 U L2’ U L2 U2 L’ // Permute corners // 9/49
M U' M2 U' M U M' U2 M // F2L? lol // 9/58
M' U M U M' U2 M U' M' U' M U' // ELL // 12/70

This solve was possible thanks to Deedubb's beginner Roux tutorial. Thanks Deedubb. I can do Roux-ish style solves now.

I knew my method wouldn't be the most efficient, but that's awesome that you were able to do it

 

[Renslay]

Your LSE seems too pro. Can you make a text or video tutorial on how you do it?

He just used misoriented centers.

Maybe you can see what did he do on this one:

On a solved cube do an M move then the inverse of his solution:
M (M U M' U2 M2 U' M2 U2 M U2)'
=
M U2 M' U2 M2 U M2 U2 M U' M'
Solution for this scramble (this is what he actually did):
M U M' // EO
U2 M2 U' // UL-UR
M2 U2 M U2 // M-perm
M' // we added an M in the beginning, so we have to undo it.

It is quite simple, isn't it? Becuse of the additional M/M' move, the centers became oriented, and you can see what's going on.
Using misoriented centers it is still the same, but a little harder to see.

Now try it on the original cube:
Scramble:
(M U M' U2 M2 U' M2 U2 M U2)'
=
U2 M' U2 M2 U M2 U2 M U' M'
Solution:
M U M' // EO with misoriented centers (the centers are non-matching, yet every edge is oriented)
U2 M2 U' // UL-UR (the centers are still non-matching)
M2 U2 M U2 // M-perm. You can see it as M (matching the centers) + M U2 M U2

 

[Shah]

He just used misoriented centers.

Maybe you can see what did he do on this one:

On a solved cube do an M move then the inverse of his solution:
M (M U M' U2 M2 U' M2 U2 M U2)'
=
M U2 M' U2 M2 U M2 U2 M U' M'
Solution for this scramble (this is what he actually did):
M U M' // EO
U2 M2 U' // UL-UR
M2 U2 M U2 // M-perm
M' // we added an M in the beginning, so we have to undo it.

It is quite simple, isn't it? Becuse of the additional M/M' move, the centers became oriented, and you can see what's going on.
Using misoriented centers it is still the same, but a little harder to see.

Now try it on the original cube:
Scramble:
(M U M' U2 M2 U' M2 U2 M U2)'
=
U2 M' U2 M2 U M2 U2 M U' M'
Solution:
M U M' // EO with misoriented centers (the centers are non-matching, yet every edge is oriented)
U2 M2 U' // UL-UR (the centers are still non-matching)
M2 U2 M U2 // M-perm. You can see it as M (matching the centers) + M U2 M U2

Thanks for explaining. Quite interesting. I'm gonna try to incorporate them in my solves. But, I usually do R or Rw at the end of the SB so that my centers are oriented after I finish my CMLL.

 

[Renslay]

Scramble:
U' F2 L2 F2 R2 D' R2 U2 L2 F' U' L' F D' B2 D' F2 R2 B2
y2 x' L2 D2 x U r' D2 U R D' [8/8]
U R U M2 U R M U M' U' r [11/19]
R U2 R' U' R U' R2 U2 R U R' U R [13/32]
M2 U' M2 U2 M' U2 M [7/39]

Really interesting solve for me. What do you guys think?

Something is wrong there.

Thanks for explaining. Quite interesting. I'm gonna try to incorporate them in my solves. But, I usually do R or Rw at the end of the SB so that my centers are oriented after I finish my CMLL.

Me too, so I never use misoriented centers in my speedsolves. Although they can be helpful, as you can see, so maybe they worth to learn.