The effect of music on cubing-WCA Regulations?

[phases]

I have no opinion on the matter, but since this thread is so awesome, I must post on it!

And I choose to say:

So we all have to use bad, unlubed and un-broken in storeboughts like at the first WC?

That's a very good point.

 

[ChrisBird]

Why don't they make it listen to music at your own risk. Because I can put my music on after I'm done inspecting or because I don't take more than 5 seconds to inspect anyway. So in conclusion, "Listen to music at your own risk during speedsolves, fewest moves challenge or feet.

Not that simple, it is best to just say no music at all, then no cheating etc.

I agree with Paul here, if you can't hear the judge or something you get your penaly. You shouldn't have the music loud enough to the point where it disturbs others/makes it so you can't hear your judge anyway, so it shouldn't be a MAJOR problem.

Why should we want to change the rules so you can get an average 2 seconds better than without music? You could be like everyone else who gets great times in comps and learn to do it without the aid of music. Here is an easy 3 step program.

1. Turn off the music
2.Cube
3. Don't turn the music back on.

Simple as that.

I am not concerned with 2 seconds, it makes a drastic difference in my times, particularly 7x7.

Maybe give my simple 3 step program a try for a couple of months (or years) and you will never know the difference.

Jcuber is just complaining because he dosen't have the skill to solve fast without music.

There is no reason to change a rule that is supposed to be there.

 

[mark3]

I don't think you should have anything to aid your solve, and since you said music helps you, that makes it wrong in my book.

So we all have to use bad, unlubed and un-broken in storeboughts like at the first WC?

Should have said external aid, which is why the post was deleted. Seriously, just turn off the music. No one cares if you and your army of few want to listen to music. Competitions are fun for me because of the interaction with other competitors, judges, observers. etc...

You can't be as interactive if you are always plugged in to your music.

 

[Paul Wagner]

Why don't they make it listen to music at your own risk. Because I can put my music on after I'm done inspecting or because I don't take more than 5 seconds to inspect anyway. So in conclusion, "Listen to music at your own risk during speedsolves, fewest moves challenge or feet.

Not that simple, it is best to just say no music at all, then no cheating etc.

I agree with Paul here, if you can't hear the judge or something you get your penaly. You shouldn't have the music loud enough to the point where it disturbs others/makes it so you can't hear your judge anyway, so it shouldn't be a MAJOR problem.

Why should we want to change the rules so you can get an average 2 seconds better than without music? You could be like everyone else who gets great times in comps and learn to do it without the aid of music. Here is an easy 3 step program.

1. Turn off the music
2.Cube
3. Don't turn the music back on.

Simple as that.

I am not concerned with 2 seconds, it makes a drastic difference in my times, particularly 7x7.

Maybe give my simple 3 step program a try for a couple of months (or years) and you will never know the difference.

Jcuber is just complaining because he dosen't have the skill to solve fast without music.

There is no reason to change a rule that is supposed to be there.

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[cubedude456]

I am with you

count me in i love lisiting to music while i cube

 

[Kian]

Music is not a good idea. Tyson Mao once said, "Why don't you bring your couch or refrigerator to a competition? It adds too many complications that could easily be avoided." Or something along those lines.

Maybe you should practice without music, or find some other way that does not go against the regulations, to help you go faster. Like drugs, but I do not recommend it.

+1. Exactly.

 

[mark3]

Music is not a good idea. Tyson Mao once said, "Why don't you bring your couch or refrigerator to a competition? It adds too many complications that could easily be avoided." Or something along those lines.

Maybe you should practice without music, or find some other way that does not go against the regulations, to help you go faster. Like drugs, but I do not recommend it.

+1. Exactly.

More like +1000

This is such a win thread.

Also, please note that I solve better with 5mm tiles, so I would like to change the rules.

Furthermore, I believe a 20 second inspection would be more beneficial to my solves, so lets get on changing that too.

 

[jcuber]

Jcuber is just complaining because he dosen't have the skill to solve fast without music.

:fp

If I didn't have the skill to solve quickly without music, how can I get consistently faster times than you both with and without it?

Just saying!

 

[phases]

Furthermore, I believe a 20 second inspection would be more beneficial to my solves, so lets get on changing that too.

Oh snap, he brings it with another rockin' point.

I love this thread.

 

[Paul Wagner]

More like +1000

This is such a win thread.

Also, please note that I solve better with 5mm tiles, so I would like to change the rules.

Furthermore, I believe a 20 second inspection would be more beneficial to my solves, so lets get on changing that too.

I hate when people take a serious idea and make a mockery out of it. Music is a small factor that helps people get slightly faster times. But, maybe it shouldn't be legal maybe it should. Just give your input not a witty remark.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

I get faster times in the nude. ELIMINATE RULE 2h. Who agrees?

 

[jtjogobonito]

I don't think you should have anything to aid your solve, and since you said music helps you, that makes it wrong in my book.

So we all have to use bad, unlubed and un-broken in storeboughts like at the first WC?

Do track runners have to run in boots or without shoes? Do professional swimmers have to swim in normal clothes? Do baseball players swing with twigs?

Saying that you cannot use a cube that you have prepared is the exact same as saying that other speed sports are not allowed to use things that they buy/make/mod(legally) to help them perform better. You may argue that music makes you perform better, but music is not a key component in the sport.

Let's play a little game. I'll list a few words below and you choose which does not belong.

Running Shoes, Baseball Bat, Cube, Music

For the record, new cubes were used because Rubik's would not sponsor the event if they were from a different brand.

 

[phases]

I get faster times in the nude. ELIMINATE RULE 2h. Who agrees?

My name's Phases, and I lol'd!

...........
Let's play a little game. I'll list a few words below and you choose which does not belong.

Shoes, Bat, Cube, Music...

Music!

 

[mark3]

More like +1000

This is such a win thread.

Also, please note that I solve better with 5mm tiles, so I would like to change the rules.

Furthermore, I believe a 20 second inspection would be more beneficial to my solves, so lets get on changing that too.

I hate when people take a serious idea and make a mockery out of it. Music is a small factor that helps people get slightly faster times. But, maybe it shouldn't be legal maybe it should. Just give your input not a witty remark.

It's called pointing out the stupidity of an idea. Why were my points not just as valid as his?

 

[Paul Wagner]

I didn't say that they were stupid. It's just you know (and you can pull it off as sarcasm all you want) that those things are not even remotely possible. So why even mention them?

I agree with Ethan!

 

[mark3]

I didn't say that they were stupid. It's just you know (and you can pull it off as sarcasm all you want) that those things are not even remotely possible. So why even mention them?

I agree with Ethan!

Becasue it is no bigger of a rule change than lifting a music ban. It just shows that you shouldn't change the rules so someone can go faster. The rules are fine the way they are. Leave it to delegates to decide what needs to change and what doesn't.

 

[jcuber]

I get faster times in the nude. ELIMINATE RULE 2h. Who agrees?

I don't care, but don't expect me to be your judge.

 

[Pedro]

how would the judges/delegate be sure you're not listening to an algorithm or something else?
check your ipod/mp3/whatever at every solve?

 

[Ethan Rosen]

I get faster times in the nude. ELIMINATE RULE 2h. Who agrees?

I don't care, but don't expect me to be your judge.

1e2) All competitors should be available for judging, if needed by organisation team. Penalty: disqualification of the competitor for the competition.

You don't seem to have much of a choice

 

[bwatkins]

It would be awesome if they let you, but even when i ran Varsity cross country in high school, we couldn't listen to music or have anything like that. It just seems like its a bit of a lost cause. It'd be too hard to differentiate acceptable versus not allowed audio material.