[Suggestion]: New Subforum Idea Proposal

Would you be interested in this idea? (Read as much of the thread as you can, please)

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How's it going cubers? Hope all is well. Thanks for checking out my suggestion thread; let me explain exactly what I want to propose.

Now, I'm quite new to this forum, so please cut me some slack if something like this has been proposed or done many years ago and it didn't work out. This is just something I'd like to see done. I searched around briefly, but didn't find much regarding my proposal. anyway, enough rambling. Without further ado, let's get right to it!

So, in short, my idea would be that of creating a subforum where one could create a personal thread to monitor, track, and update fellow cubers upon one's own accomplishments, goals, and progress. Now, before I get heat for there already being a thread for the community's accomplishments and goals, please just bear with me. There is a single thread that extends for hundreds and hundreds of pages where one's accomplishments are typed up in one post and then lost in the plethora of others' accomplishments. The same goes for the "goal thread", such that a cuber's goals are lost amongst more recent ones. Sure, you can edit your post and whatnot when you achieve goals or succeed with new milestones, but the degree to which you can give and receive feedback is quite limited seeing as one thread is shared by 20000 other people.

What's my solution then? Well, it's simple enough; the community creates a subforum that will be limited to "progress reports" (if you want to call it that), personal updates, and personalized feedback on what you're doing and how you're doing it. I know I'm starting to make it seem as if I'm merging the solve critique thread into here too, but I seriously believe that an additional subforum where each thread is for one unique user only will be beneficial to the community. That's not to say that the other threads (accomplishments, goals, solve critiques) should be eliminated, as they are very useful; i.e. I want one quick critique from a few other cubers and that's that. But an individualized thread for every cuber allows others to critique with more detail, allows for more open conversations about anything pertaining to your cubing (after all, it is YOUR thread), and in general gives a greater sense of control over your own cubing, as you can post everything and anything to monitor yourself.

Let's say that you love numbers and number-crunching, as do I. Well, in your personal thread, you can post charts visually showing your progress, excel documents, or links to lists of your times. How is that beneficial? A) It's a public way to keep track of your times, B) Others can comment on your progress, and C) Beginners and advanced cubers alike can read through other threads to give themselves ideas of how long it will take to achieve a certain time, learn a certain method, and the like, to avoid repetitive threads such as: "OMG, IVE BEEN QBING 4 LIEK 3 DAYS, HOW LONG TIL SUB20?!?!11 HELP PLOX?". (Bit of an exaggeration, but you get my point). Real results and numbers from hundreds of fellow users who were once in the same position as you will give more realistic ideas of how many solves until XYZ, how much time until XYZ, and what I have to do to achieve XYZ. Real, in-depth, numerical results are something I see lacking in significant numbers on a forum that's dedicated to a timed craft. This will fix that.

Where did I get this idea from? Well, a long time ago I was playing a video game, and on that game's website was a subforum dedicated to exactly this; a place where one could show their cubing journey and career. Since it was a video game, it was mostly limited to: I will become level X before time Y or acquiring a certain item. With cubing, however, you have a whole dimension of progress that can be charted, analyzed, and displayed for others to be both informed and motivated.

This is starting to get awfully long, but I think that it is a valid idea with some merit to it. Like I said, I'm new here, so if that in any way influences you to disregard my proposal, I get it. Experience = Credibility in a sort. But for those of you who may be interested, please give me some feedback. Add on your on bits and pieces if you think you've got something that could make such a subforum even better. And if you hate it, please let me know why. Just a suggestion for now. I appreciate those of you who will take the time to read this in it's entirety.

- Robert :)
 
I think there was a "blogs" feature at one point that no one used.
 
I don't think there's a real purpose for having a Personal Best subforum. It would just severely lower the overall quality of the forums. We need more constructive and helpful threads. A PB area would be a step in the wrong direction.

Some people just put their PBs in their signature, either directly or by having a link to a personal page, which works well enough.
 
I don't think it would be a strictly personal best subforum, it would have threads for people to post things that aren't important enough to make a thread about. PBs, videos, announcements, maybe stories. I don't think it would affect the quality of the forums if it didn't show up on the front page.
 
There are a couple users that have used their new member threads to do this. I think they have excellent responses from others as well. I don't know if there's anything specific against using intro threads for this purpose, but it seems that if everyone did it it would end up as Sarah said, very cluttery and a step backwards.
 
There are a couple users that have used their new member threads to do this. I think they have excellent responses from others as well. I don't know if there's anything specific against using intro threads for this purpose, but it seems that if everyone did it it would end up as Sarah said, very cluttery and a step backwards.
I personally don't like the idea of a user creating a thread for themselves to keep track of and update their PBs. Introduction threads are nice, because it allows us to welcome new members, answer their cubing questions, and help them get started into using the forums. The threads are problematic when they stay active for too long and they are no longer introduction threads. I highly don't recommend using introduction threads for anything other than introducing yourself and to ask questions about cubing or the forums.
 
I personally don't like the idea of a user creating a thread for themselves to keep track of and update their PBs. Introduction threads are nice, because it allows us to welcome new members, answer their cubing questions, and help them get started into using the forums. The threads are problematic when they stay active for too long and they are no longer introduction threads. I highly don't recommend using introduction threads for anything other than introducing yourself and to ask questions about cubing or the forums.

Hmm... how exactly are these threads problematic?
 
It would be great if offline timers would offer the functionality of storing (and nicely displaying) times. Users could then link to that from their profile/signature. I don't see any reason to include this in the forum itself

Cubemania.org.
 
I have no opinion on the topic in hand (although I disagree with Ms Strong's point that it would lower the quality of the forums; I see no reason to believe this whatsoever (and I'm not just having a cheap-shot in implying that you can't go lower than how things currently are :p ); I think it is false to claim that a subforum itself can be degenerative, but rather it is the members posting that make subforums constructive or degenerative).

Actually what I wanted to say is how much of myself I see in the writing style of the OP. If I was the one writing his posts they would look identical <3
 
Hmm... how exactly are these threads problematic?
Because they encourage other users to do the same. If every active user had their own active thread, it would be a mess.

I have no opinion on the topic in hand (although I disagree with Ms Strong's point that it would lower the quality of the forums; I see no reason to believe this whatsoever (and I'm not just having a cheap-shot in implying that you can't go lower than how things currently are :p ); I think it is false to claim that a subforum itself can be degenerative, but rather it is the members posting that make subforums constructive or degenerative).
We like Speedsolving.com to be seen as the place to have constructive and interesting cubing discussions, and the place to get help for your cubing needs. If a PB subforum is created, people would also view it as the place to spam with all your personal bests. I agree that the quality of the forums is at an all-time low, so we definitely don't want to encourage more users to do so by providing a new subforum with threads that are essentially spam.
 
100 words to read before getting to your idea. The thing is almost nobody cares about the progression of random people. If you want start a blog or twitter account for it but I doubt many will be following. Not trying to be harsh, just realistic.
 
1. "Personal Best" forum vs. "Personal Progress" forum; let me clarify this. I think that Sarah might have interpreted the idea a little differently than I did. For me, the idea was a progress forum, where one's personal progress could be charted. Progress is a set of numbers, goals, achievements, and data, that can be used to reasonably compare one's cubing against another person's. This allows for personal growth, better critiques of what you are doing right and wrong, and gives a more detailed idea of your journey as a cuber. Personal bests, on the other hand, are a few numbers that show your best times. Nothing more than that. Because it is only your personal bests, they fail to give a solid idea of your cubing journey, and thus don't allow other users to learn from your mistake or successes. Personal bests offer no help to other cubers, and, like Sarah mentioned, can be placed in your signature. I 100% agree, but this forum will be more than just personal bests. It will be as much information about your cubing as you can compile and share from point A to point B.
I understood that you meant it to be a place for personal progression. I really like your idea, but I just don't think that this forum is the right place for it.


3. You can always link your signature to a personal website or timer that tracks your progress, but not everybody knows how to or wants to create a website, and not very many timers offer said feature. I think it'd be easier for people to place it in a selected forum where they could openly show their progress to other cubers without going to the sometimes complicated extent of creating a website. If more timers offered a feature that tracks and nicely displays progress, that would be a good substitute.

Cubemania is fairly popular.
cubemania.org

4. I know some of the better cubers would care less for noobs posting their progression. But wouldn't it be interesting if the best cubers were encouraged to post their progress and sets of times? I know that not every cuber keeps tracks of times from the day they begin like I do :P but they could still show how their times change when they, i.e. change to a new method, or vary the way they complete a certain stage of the cube. For noobs like me, though, I'd absolutely love to see others, no matter how random, posting their times. It gives me a way of contrasting and comparing my progress, and learning from the mistakes of others so that I don't repeat them myself. For more experienced cubers who care little for the progress of noobs, this could be a better opportunity to critique progress, not just a few solves like in the "solve critique" thread.
We don't want to encourage people to ask for information to be spoon fed to them.

Finally, like Dene said, a forum isn't necessarily degenerative, but the posters themselves can be. I know that there's risk when you encourage users to post a thread all about them, but it also provides a good opportunity for learning.
They can learn in other ways. This forum is very helpful if you know where/how to ask for help.

Sorry if I'm coming across as harsh, but I want you to see why this isn't a good idea for this forum.
 
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I agree that the quality of the forums is at an all-time low

Actually I was really just joking with that statement. I don't believe the quality of the forums is any lower than it was when I first joined almost 6 years ago. I think there is an equally proportional amount of useless stuff ("How do I get sub30?), and possibly an increase in constructive stuff, mainly in the form of the wiki, and other useful threads such as the OAQT which weren't around when I joined.

I suspect the real reason you're against this is because you know it will mean a lot of extra work for mods trying to keep threads in order and on topic if it were to be able to work in the way the OP described. Perhaps this is a reasonable fear but it doesn't guarantee such a subforum would become a spammers dream.
 
I suspect the real reason you're against this is because you know it will mean a lot of extra work for mods trying to keep threads in order and on topic if it were to be able to work in the way the OP described. Perhaps this is a reasonable fear but it doesn't guarantee such a subforum would become a spammers dream.
No, actually. If that were the reason then I would have just said that. :p
 
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