Stuck and CANT.. get out

[lotsofsocks]

Sub 20 Barrier help

This is my first post on the forums...so my question/statement is, im stuck at 22 sec. averages. Since its summer I practice at least 5 hours a day. I know full pll and 17 olls. i get under twenty ever OTHER now and then if i see everything PERFECTLY in f2l. I'm using a diansheng cube also.i did an average of 12 for each step in the cfop (fridrich) method.

F2l with cross already:9 sec.
cross w/f2l:13 sec.
cross:3 sec
pll:2 sec.
whole cube:22 SEC.

I try and use a metronome to look ahead but its hard to me. my style is like do f2l at my speed and when i can look ahead. Kinda like fast whit pauses??? I only been cubing for 5 months though. So.. Should I change my style or look ahead more work on LL? I dont know how to break this barrier. So can you help/teach me how to break it and if you where in this situation how you would break it PLEASE. Soon i will be averaging sub 20 then hopefully sub 15 by the time im 20. But i need you guys help to get me there.
Thank You.

 

[byu]

I have three pieces of advice, to be followed in order:

Practice, persistence, patience

 

[lotsofsocks]

I have three pieces of advice, to be followed in order:

Practice, persistence, patience

Are you positive man?? Because you average 10 + more than me...

 

[Swoncen]

It doesn't matter what his average is. Only because his average is worse does not mean that he don't know how to improve.

 

[StachuK1992]

I have three pieces of advice, to be followed in order:

Practice, persistence, patience

Are you positive man?? Because you average 10 + more than me...

that's in competition. He's a lot better now.

 

[lotsofsocks]

It doesn't matter what his average is. Only because his average is worse does not mean that he don't know how to improve.

ok forget what i said.. i need answers please though

 

[mazei]

You already got the advice needed.

 

[Swoncen]

Practice, persistence, patience

I guess your OLL is 7 seconds since your average is 22 sec. and cross w/f2l:13 sec. and pll: 2sec

you should try to improve that.

 

[lotsofsocks]

It doesn't matter what his average is. Only because his average is worse does not mean that he don't know how to improve.

oops i forgot to add oll avearge of 12= 3 sec.

 

[mazei]

Oh, forgot to this advice:

Optimize your F2L

 

[lotsofsocks]

Oh, forgot to this advice:

Optimize your F2L

What does that mean??

 

[mazei]

Means try to reduce the amount of moves you do during the F2L stage. And a 5s LL is very good. I have a 5s LL. Just focus on your F2L. It is the most important stage. Try to slow down to look ahead. With 3-LLL it would usually take around 73(?) moves at max so you would only need a 4tps to average 18 seconds.

Another note is that you will face barriers that will be harder to pass as you progress. I'm stuck at 13s for maybe 5 months now.

Note: I mean F2L with cross included.

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

It doesn't matter what his average is. Only because his average is worse does not mean that he don't know how to improve.

oops i forgot to add oll avearge of 12= 3 sec.

Don't you see how that adds up to 18 seconds for the whole cube?

 

[lotsofsocks]

It doesn't matter what his average is. Only because his average is worse does not mean that he don't know how to improve.

oops i forgot to add oll avearge of 12= 3 sec.

Don't you see how that adds up to 18 seconds for the whole cube?

i know yeah separatley because i can look ahead but not doing the whole cube..

 

[Ethan Rosen]

I have three pieces of advice, to be followed in order:

Practice, persistence, patience

Are you positive man?? Because you average 10 + more than me...

that's in competition. He's a lot better now.

Or so he claims

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Videos are always helpful.
anyway, try to look ahead. It's hard, I know, but it's the only way you'll get better. I know because I just passed the sub-20 barrier. Try to do F2L with as few cube rotations, meaning that unless there's a really easy pair, handle the oriented edges BEFORE the oriented ones. Make sure your F2L (includes cross) is efficient, meaning like 35 moves maximum.

@ Ethan Rosen - Why do you not believe byu?

 

[lotsofsocks]

Videos are always helpful.
anyway, try to look ahead. It's hard, I know, but it's the only way you'll get better. I know because I just passed the sub-20 barrier. Try to do F2L with as few cube rotations, meaning that unless there's a really easy pair, handle the oriented edges BEFORE the oriented ones. Make sure your F2L (includes cross) is efficient, meaning like 35 moves maximum.

@ Ethan Rosen - Why do you not believe byu?

So you average sub 20??? If so good job.. i only do cube rotations if im putting in apair from the BL position and F faces position which i get that alot any way tp resolve the matter??

 

[Ethan Rosen]

@ Ethan Rosen - Why do you not believe byu?

It isn't that I am positive that he is lying or anything, I just have my doubts
This post should explain a bit:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=177544&postcount=78

It wouldn't take much for him to convince me though