[Help Thread] Square-1 Discussion

[uberCuber]

This is off-topic, but helpful. If you are going to learn SQ-1, DO NOT learn Full EP right off the bat. Learn 2-look EP. Full CP is far easier.

Considering that he is apparently looking to learn something other than CP -> EP, I fail to see how this is relevant at all.

 

[moscacube]

I'm not going to learn SQ-1 lol
I learned it about one year ago and now my average is 20-23 seconds, so I want to learn a speeder method

 

[Dene]

I may as well get in my recommendation. If you're interested in avoiding annoying parity cases, and significantly reducing the amount of EP cases, you could try learning CP+Parity.

 

[brandbest1]

Wow, I just realized that my official sq1 single is horrible compared to my average when you look at people's stats higher than mine. Am I that consistent?

EDIT: Oh wait, I realized Brian has the same thing too.

 

[MTGjumper]

... but isn't your official average incredible for you and your single normal?

Also, if you want to learn CP parity, I have a list of algs in my sig (at least, the algs I would use...) They're the ones that are best-suited for my fingertricks.

 

[brandbest1]

... but isn't your official average incredible for you and your single normal?

Also, if you want to learn CP parity, I have a list of algs in my sig (at least, the algs I would use...) They're the ones that are best-suited for my fingertricks.

Well if you take a look at the people ahead of me in the ranking for average, you'll notice a trend for single, like 10s, 20s, and 30s, then all of a sudden, when you get to me, it bumps to 68, then goes back to the 30s.

 

[MTGjumper]

I understood what you meant

 

[TheNextFeliks]

Here is a video. BrandBest1 gave me a few tips. Do you have some more?

 

[Czery]

Well if you take a look at the people ahead of me in the ranking for average, you'll notice a trend for single, like 10s, 20s, and 30s, then all of a sudden, when you get to me, it bumps to 68, then goes back to the 30s.

Need. to. improve. single. record...
(sounds of exasperation)

why u no use cp parity?

 

[brandbest1]

Need. to. improve. single. record...
(sounds of exasperation)

why u no use cp parity?

I can't execute the algs fast enough. Besides, my parity algs are pretty decent anyway.
I could put an average using cp parity, it's going to suck.

 

[MovingOnUp]

If I'm just learning Square-1 , know how to solve it with the beginner's method , what should I be learning to get good times, and in what order? I apologize, I know next to nothing about square-1 lol

 

[Outsmash]

If I'm just learning Square-1 , know how to solve it with the beginner's method , what should I be learning to get good times, and in what order? I apologize, I know next to nothing about square-1 lol

CO, EO (Both shouldn't take too long)
Cubeshape
Non-parity EPs like H, Z, U's, O/Opp, Adj/adj, Opp/Opp which are fairly easy.
Parity CP.

This necessarily may not be the best for you but that's how I progressed =]

 

[Outsmash]

You could post a video and we could help.

Here's a video of 6 solves by me. Opinions/Tips/Guidance would be great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJQXJ1JqIcQ&list=UU_OdHHAcetWanIhKqyWn2ug&index=1

 

[vcuber13]

it looks like your trying to turn faster than you can and locking up. if you do a couple hundred solves without the spring, when you put it back you will be probably 3 sec faster

 

[Rubiks560]

So...I'm trying to get into SQ1 and need advice.

I currently average about 38 with Screw using awful group edges and a J perm and U perms for LL.
I just want to average sub 20. If I were to learn all the PLLs and get advanced cubeshape down, do you think I could do it? Or am I better off dropping Screw?

 

[TheNextFeliks]

How to recognize parity before cp?

I am learning some ep's. If I get a case like u/z do you think I should do the two adj/adj swaps or use u and z?

 

[brandbest1]

So...I'm trying to get into SQ1 and need advice.

I currently average about 38 with Screw using awful group edges and a J perm and U perms for LL.
I just want to average sub 20. If I were to learn all the PLLs and get advanced cubeshape down, do you think I could do it? Or am I better off dropping Screw?

Switch to Lars. You'll be much faster.
You should also get advanced cubeshape down. I'm not familiar with the screw method all that well.

How to recognize parity before cp?

I am learning some ep's. If I get a case like u/z do you think I should do the two adj/adj swaps or use u and z?

Unless you can track down an odd number of swaps during EO, you can't identify parity before cp. Just use parity cp, parity and cp, or parity ep.

I use the double adj/adj swap for u/z. The actual alg is just adj/adj with cancellations. You can learn it if you wish to save moves.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

You mean that if there are odd number of edges swapped during eo then you know it is parity?

 

[brandbest1]

You mean that if there are odd number of edges swapped during eo then you know it is parity?

Actually you have to incorporate corners too, so I do not recommend recognizing parity during eo.

 

[vcuber13]

So...I'm trying to get into SQ1 and need advice.

I currently average about 38 with Screw using awful group edges and a J perm and U perms for LL.
I just want to average sub 20. If I were to learn all the PLLs and get advanced cubeshape down, do you think I could do it? Or am I better off dropping Screw?

are you using jason baums method or screw?

How to recognize parity before cp?

I am learning some ep's. If I get a case like u/z do you think I should do the two adj/adj swaps or use u and z?

do you mean before executing or getting to cp?
recognizing parity cp is the same as pll on 4x4