ImmolatedMarmoset
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Yes, unless you want to be a renegade and learn the Lin method, which is like Roux for squan.
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[Help Thread] Square-1 Discussion
DuckubingCuber347
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What's the alg for l-L on squan? The one it shows on on SpeedCubeDB just gives you L-L.
Edit: as John_NOTgood pointed out the L is not in the correct possession. The reason I was confused is that from a solved state it does not give you the correct scrambled state like the other EO algs do. You must either reverse the alg or repeat it three times to get it.
Edit: as John_NOTgood pointed out the L is not in the correct possession. The reason I was confused is that from a solved state it does not give you the correct scrambled state like the other EO algs do. You must either reverse the alg or repeat it three times to get it.
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John_NOTgood
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Isn't it the same alg you posted "(1,0)/ (-3,0) / (3,0) /(-1,-1) / (-3,0) / (3,0) / (0,1)" but the L is on the back right instead of front right like the picture shows you?
Rouxster
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I just started learning CSP using Cale's tracing method.
(-5,6)/ (2,5)/ (3,0)/ (1,-2)/ (-4,-1)/ (3,0)/ (-5,-2)/ (2,-3)/ (-3,-3)/ (0,-1)/ (-4,0)/ (2,0)
I end up with odd parity on this scramble but solving the case with scallop/scallop, which is the odd alg still gives parity at the end. Is the alg wrong or am I tracing incorrectly? doing z2 and tracing again gives even parity which is correct. why does this happen?
(-5,6)/ (2,5)/ (3,0)/ (1,-2)/ (-4,-1)/ (3,0)/ (-5,-2)/ (2,-3)/ (-3,-3)/ (0,-1)/ (-4,0)/ (2,0)
I end up with odd parity on this scramble but solving the case with scallop/scallop, which is the odd alg still gives parity at the end. Is the alg wrong or am I tracing incorrectly? doing z2 and tracing again gives even parity which is correct. why does this happen?
Derpzwascubing
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I’m about to buy a square 1 and I saw that there’s a regular colour scheme and one with black replacing yellow, is there anything different about these?
Sub1Hour
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Black is just used because its easier to distinguish from white. I prefer to use that scheme because white and black have a stark contrast between each other and from the other colors on the cube. Some people also use yellow and black but I don't think that looks as nice. Basically, if you like white and yellow, get that. If you like black and white, get that.
Here is a (new?) more intuitive, slightly shorter, algorithm for Square-1 Adj-Adj parity, equator is not flipped:
/-U/UD/U/-U/22/20/-24/-42/04/41/UD/U
/(-3,0)/(3,3)/(3,0)/(-3,0)/(2,2)/(2,0)/(-2,4)/(-4,2)/(0,4)/(4,1)/(3,3)/(3,0)
For comparison, this is the alg by Lars Vandenberg (2007), adapted to cancel equator flip:
/-U/D/-D/D/20/02/-20/40/0-2/02/-14/D/D2/-D
/(-3,0)/(0,3)/(0,-3)/(0,3)/(2,0)/(0,2)/(-2,0)/(4,0)/(0,-2)/(0,2)/(-1,4)/(0,3)/(0,6)/(0,-3)
/-U/UD/U/-U/22/20/-24/-42/04/41/UD/U
/(-3,0)/(3,3)/(3,0)/(-3,0)/(2,2)/(2,0)/(-2,4)/(-4,2)/(0,4)/(4,1)/(3,3)/(3,0)
For comparison, this is the alg by Lars Vandenberg (2007), adapted to cancel equator flip:
/-U/D/-D/D/20/02/-20/40/0-2/02/-14/D/D2/-D
/(-3,0)/(0,3)/(0,-3)/(0,3)/(2,0)/(0,2)/(-2,0)/(4,0)/(0,-2)/(0,2)/(-1,4)/(0,3)/(0,6)/(0,-3)
Lid
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Shorter isn't always faster.
This one does the same as yours but is imho faster, /-3,0/-3,0/-1,0/0,2/-2,0/4,0/0,-2/0,2/2,1/-3,0/3,0/0,-3/-3,0/3,0
Short analysis: 14 twists, "move" count: 29 = 14|29, sum of all layer moves: 34 (not include AUF)
Yours: 12|30, 48 (Normal alg 13|27, 34)
That is just a few things what you can look at, plus o/c you have to try the algs out.
This one does the same as yours but is imho faster, /-3,0/-3,0/-1,0/0,2/-2,0/4,0/0,-2/0,2/2,1/-3,0/3,0/0,-3/-3,0/3,0
Short analysis: 14 twists, "move" count: 29 = 14|29, sum of all layer moves: 34 (not include AUF)
Yours: 12|30, 48 (Normal alg 13|27, 34)
That is just a few things what you can look at, plus o/c you have to try the algs out.
Kedin drysdale
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What is easiest way to memorize algorithms for Sq1
unirox13
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Repetition and frustration lol. Actually I started to pay more attention to the shape that the puzzle was supposed to be in during the alg. I would repeat the algs over and over again, all the while saying the alg out loud. Then as I started to get a bit of a flow going, I started to focus on how the puzzle looked as I was going. Sounds a little confusing, but I know that during certain stages of an alg, if I don't see certain, "patterns" on the puzzle, then I've messed something up.
Thom S.
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Honestly not different from other puzzles.
There are many tutorials on 'how to learn algorithms fast and easy', as always, J Perm has you covered.
One thing is that remembering Numbers that don't have any coherrency is incredibly hard so try to remember fingertricks.
FlatMars
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Does anyone happen to have a sheet with full OBL and mirrors and all?
Sub1Hour
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There is an app that Calvin Nielson made called cubegym. It's got every single OBL case there. The only problem is that you cant get it on IOS so if you have an iphone you have to use an emulator.
alguem necessitado
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How many algorithms are there in this method to solve square-1 blindfolded:
Luke Solves Cubes
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Would someone be able to walk me through solving the square-1? I have tried multiple youtube tutorials and none of them seem to help. I would be grateful if anyone would walk me through it.
Thom S.
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Which step are you lost on?
Are you already familiar with the Notation?
Can you send some pictures?
Are you already familiar with the Notation?
Can you send some pictures?
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DuckubingCuber347
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What's the best source for CS? Currently I am planning on using SCDB but I wondered if there was anything else out there.
Eli Apperson
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Sub1Hour
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https://hashtagcuber.com/csp/
I like this source because not only is it great for learning just standard CSP cases but also is fantastic for when you want to move into CSP later on with markers for Cale CSP
Puzzlerr
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i learned to solve it with instructions in a few hours, but i've not memorized any of the algs yet becuase there is probably a better way to solve it then the way it has on the instruction thing, anyone know a good tutorial?
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