SpeedSolving Forum Competitions Association (SFCA)

[Timona]

ya know, if you're gonna try to do something like this, maybe include actual forum mods/admins lmao

Don't you think they have enough work on their head, currently modding and managing an entire forum?? Imagine being and admin of Quora, that's a lot of work.

 

[cuberswoop]

Been wanting to do this for a while.

The SFCA is made up of people that oversee forum comps.

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The SFCA will basically be a wca for the forums, with most of the same features.
The team:
Delegates:

gsingh

baseballjello67

Luke Solves Cubes

Timona

Garf



Rankings/Records:

Timoma

Garf

Competitor Profiles:

Luke Solves Cubes

baseballjello67

gsingh

Competition Managers:

gsingh

baseballjello67


Organizers can pm a "delegate" who can help them. There will be 6 delegates (no more than 2/comp) and max. 5 organizers (excluding delegates)/comp.

If you are organizing a comp, or have one that hasn't taken place yet, pls pm both of the comp managers. (@gsingh and @baseballjello67)
We will give you a comp website.

Cheers,
gsingh

Ok, but why?

 

[Luke Solves Cubes]

Ok, but why?

To make online competitions more organized also so that we can have stuff like rankings.

 

[turtwig]

How about you guys just run your own series of competitions if you're interested in running these regularly. Don't claim to be the "official" forum competition association or anything like that. Unless you get a forum moderator on board it's not going to be official anyway (I don't see what the point of that would be anyway, the weekly forum competition already exists). Come up with your own branding. I would also encourage you to come up with something special about the competitions so that it's not just a clone of other online competitions (except with much fewer competitors).

 

[cuberswoop]

To make online competitions more organized

Ngl, the comps organized by your 'delegates' have sucked, and I'm glad I didn't enter them.

also so that we can have stuff like rankings.

But why

Ok, let's look at other features of the SFCA, or whatever it's called.

1: Competitions
Ok, competitions, cool. Why do we need an association for them? Beats me. They're not official either way.
2: Records
This is literally the same thing as rankings why does it exist?
3: Live
This is not live in any way. It's basically looking back at past comp rounds.
4: Regulations
They're completely empty (so far), and if you're gonna have different regulations than the WCA, good luck writing that all (I bet gsingh makes a special regulation for people who can't prove they're fast).

Another point to make is if half the people on the forums don't trust you, why are you a delegate? If this organization is gonna be a thing at least let the community help out deciding the delegates. If people don't trust you, why would they enter your SFACACAAFA organization?

Anyway, my last point is that why do people need help to organize competitions? And even if they did, it seems you aren't good at it either, let's look at the SJCs for instance.
1: Your organizers don't communicate very well

Scrambles and Google Form are up on the website! R2 starts now.
To see if you have qualified for R2, please check the Current Rankings page of the website. If your name is in green for an event, you have made it to R2 for that event.
blah blah blah blah comp stuff blah blah blah

A few (insert unit of time)s later:

R2 starts in 9 hours. blah blah redo all of it later

2: I forgot what it was but I'm sure it was good.

Also, did you put @BenChristman1's comp in the SCFA when he specifically said

This competition is not associated with the SFCA. Please PM me separately if you have any questions about this decision.

? Dang, you just straight up claimed his comp. I'm sure that's against the law in at least 8 states.

 

[qwr]

Don't you think they have enough work on their head, currently modding and managing an entire forum?? Imagine being and admin of Quora, that's a lot of work.

Quora is a place for self-proclaimed experts to post garbage anyway
I would actually trust the people here more

 

[kubesolver]

I think my beef with the new institution is that it isn't the organic natural way to build organization like that.

You don't have capital, employees, regulations etc. They're is no need to formalize anything. Just run your comps, make a thread or page with combined stats from them and let it grow.

If I remember correctly WCA started literally as a website run by one guy and it scsled up to having specific roles and legal form when just one guy with a website wasn't good enough anymore for the purpose of getting sponsors for the competitions, paying for certain services etc.

It grew into real organization and gained recognition as official because everyone in the community gathered around a website with rankings.

You start from the opposite direction by creating an empty organization and giving yourself and your friends executive roles and hope the masses will follow.

 

[Imsoosm]

Some thoughts on this:

Spoiler: tldr

I'm don't think this is necessarily a bad idea, but it would be better to have an official or more trustworthy/responsible people in this organization. Also would be better if other people voted on delegates and managers.

A few words about the competition "Speedsolving July Championships" first.

Also, this will be a very big competition, so I might need another host to help me. If you are interested, please PM me!!

Note that in the original post I asked for some people to help me with organizing, not taking over organizing. All desicions made by other organizers should come to me first, and if I approve, then they can continue. I originally planned to have all of the competitors submit all of their times in a round for all events in one message. That way the thread wouldn't be spammed with tons of messages.

Then @gsingh says we should use google docs and websites to keep track of the scores. This is a great idea and helps keeping track of peoples' results easier. At least it was a great idea until gsingh stopped updating the website and announcing stuff. I'm not blaming him, but maybe it's better to tell some of the other hosts who can access google about it before going offline for 3 days? That way the competition could be running more smoothly?

@baseballjello67 also made the decision of removing like 6 events. Again, not blaming him since it already happened, but he should have at least informed me of the decision before making the announcement.

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Anyway, the past is the past, so what was done has already happened. I'm not blaming any of the members said above, and I do appreciate their efforts in running the competition, but I'm just saying there's a lot of room for improvement, and better communication between the people.

I think this association might turn out to be pretty good, keeping track of all of the unofficial forum competitions. But some people certainly need to prove that they are more responsible to become a delegate/manager. I think this decision should be voted on by other forum members first.