Some questions on different kinds of cubes

Thanks for all these replies, I'll try cubing with the ghosthand more until I get more accuracy. Then I will start cubing with the Zhanchi.
 
I was raising the example of the $1 cube to make my point that "Cuber not the cube" should not be an end all be all statement to cover every case. $1 might be silly, but plenty of people are using Rubik's storebought. You try using a Rubik's storebought to get as fast as you are getting with a Guhong or Zhanchi. And what would be the point of getting those cubes at all if it's "cuber not the cube"?
 
sneaklyfox said:
I was raising the example of the $1 cube to make my point that "Cuber not the cube" should not be an end all be all statement to cover every case. $1 might be silly, but plenty of people are using Rubik's storebought. You try using a Rubik's storebought to get as fast as you are getting with a Guhong or Zhanchi. And what would be the point of getting those cubes at all if it's "cuber not the cube"?
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My point was that your example was ridiculous... And hence I gave a ridiculous example too. the point of the 'cuber not the cube' saying is that, and a true fact i believe, that the cuber makes a much bigger impact on his times than his cube. Also, I can get sub-15 with a rubik's storebought (A few months after I joined last year I was still using a storebought with a sub-15 avg), and 8s normally. With a dayan guhong a beginner could get say, ok be generous, 30 seconds. With a storebought I can get 15. The impact is much larger from the cuber than the cube.
The point of getting a cube is to instantly boost your speed a little.

So I see it.

Though I agree:
"Cuber not the cube" should not be an end all be all statement to cover every case.
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When someone specifically asks for the best cube you dont simply go "cuber not the cube" but "personal preference here are some examples"
 
5BLD said:
My point was that your example was ridiculous... And hence I gave a ridiculous example too. the point of the 'cuber not the cube' saying is that, and a true fact i believe, that the cuber makes a much bigger impact on his times than his cube. Also, I can get sub-15 with a rubik's storebought (A few months after I joined last year I was still using a storebought with a sub-15 avg), and 8s normally. With a dayan guhong a beginner could get say, ok be generous, 30 seconds. With a storebought I can get 15. The impact is much larger from the cuber than the cube.
The point of getting a cube is to instantly boost your speed a little.

So I see it.

Though I agree:

When someone specifically asks for the best cube you dont simply go "cuber not the cube" but "personal preference here are some examples"
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There's nothing ridiculous about using a ridiculous example to make a point. Don't people do that? Exaggerate to make a point? Anyway, I totally agree with you that the cuber plays a much bigger part than the cube. 15 with storebought compared to your sub-7 with your guhong... that's twice as fast. But I think a good cube plays a bigger part when you are faster.
 
But a good cube costs about the same as a bad cube...

A really bad cube costs about £1 here.
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My response was supposed to be very much tongue is cheek. I tried solving at speed using my lubed very cheap freebie cube...

Cheap cube - snail
Rubik's Cube (more than a Dayan) - speed of sound
Dayan - speed of light
 
The only problem that I can see from moving on to a better cube is corner cutting. If you rely on cutting too much then you'll have a tough time moving on the 4x4 and above because they cannot cut well. I still have a small amount of difficulty because of that when big cubing, because lockups are a *****. Basically: Don't rely on corner cutting but get an amazing cube as soon as possible.
 
I'm going to get flamed for this but:
I went from rubiks brand to A1 to zhanchi to guhong v1 for my mains. I have a ton of trouble on big cubes because I'm used to the corner cutting on the dayans. I'm about 5 sec worse because of corner cutting. Try practicing turning accurately or having another type of speed cube in between. I switched when I felt like my cube was holding me back which was true when I improved by 10 sec in a few minutes when I got my A1. If you feel like a cube is too fast, use a slower one or tighten the cube until it's slower.

I run a cubing club at school and everyone started with a rubiks brand and some ended up liking the guhong but others prefered their rubiks because they kept over turning and messing up because of the over turning. They had to learn how to take care of their dayans because you need to tension, clean and lube your cube for it to turn well. They never had to deal with tensioning or cleaning because they just put some crc in their rubiks brands and kept breaking their cube in. Now a lot of them switched to the F3 or a ghost hand 2 because they like the speed and feel of the cube. They only want to switch when they average low 20s because they can't deal with the speed of the dayans. There was only one person in the club that felt better with a dayan because they were already used to using my guhong and knew how to turn slower and control the cube.

Everyone is different so if you don't feel like getting another cube just tighten the cube a little but it's all personal preference. Some people are fine when they start with a dayan but others would rather have another type of speed cube first so there is a smaller jump in the speed of the cube.
 
Since I only have a rubiks,ghosthand and guhong, I can compare them fairly well. My rubiks cube is normally ignored.My Guhong is the fastest, but i have it so loose that if i don't turn accuratley, 4 corners and 5 edges explode everywhere. The ghosthand is almost as fast as the guhong but is tensioned better so I don't have to care about accuracy as much which could be a relief to a new cuber spaming algs, but that is not a good way to get faster.So I switch between my ghosthand and guhong based on personal preferences like size and durability.
 
This makes sense doesn't it: a cube that's easier to turn can be solved faster, because easy things can be done faster than harder things, and turning is what you do to solve the cube. It's only logical.

So what if you have to get used to a faster cube? Your first F2L solves are slower than your LBL's, but you get used to it eventually and go faster. Just get the feel for a it, and you will get faster with a faster cube, over time.
 
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I can try tightening the tensions a bit to slow it down, however, there IS a downside to that IMHO as I will have to relearn to flick a side. I know I will overshoot on a quarter turn once I loosen it up again.

I found out my cube was way too loose, and it was that same getting used to once it had been tightened.

Yeah.. "what is wisdom", is what we say here in NL :) Meaning both sides have really good points and it's hard to choose.
 
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