[Help Thread] Skewb Discussion

[DGraciaRubik]

Looking for a good alg for the first case Tim Major mentions and the other Pi + Z case. Anyone got any of those? (Preferable with layer on top because i'm weird like that)

 

[Tim Major]

Looking for a good alg for the first case Tim Major mentions and the other Pi + Z case. Anyone got any of those? (Preferable with layer on top because i'm weird like that)

(Hideki notation)

I use B' R' r' F r B' r R y' r' l (alg I found on Hideki's site and modified slightly)

I can get about 2.9 on it, and I get about 2.5-3 for Z-perm (r l' U' l U l r l' r) so I think someone with high TPS could get low-mid 1 on B' R' r' F r B' r R y' r' l

I haven't found a good alg for the other Pi+Z-perm alg, the alg I'm using takes me 4.5~ which is "worth it" but hardly (double sledge+Z-perm is 5~)

Anyone got a better alg for it? For my method I need an alg for each Pi+Z case, the 2 other cases I showed (though double sledge y/y' triple sledge works for now), 2 other Pi cases and 2 L cases and I think I'll be averaging about 7s with my awful TPS. 8 algs, sledge and hedge+lots of hacky intuition, and I feel with Antoine/Rami's TPS this current iteration of my method could be quite fast.

I'll edit this post with algs if I manage to work out a-cube later.

 

[Marco Cuber]

I am finally getting a LanLan skewb tomorrow!
What method would you guys suggest? I think I am leaning towards Sarah's beginner method but i wanna know your guys' opinions.

 

[SweetSolver]

I am finally getting a LanLan skewb tomorrow!
What method would you guys suggest? I think I am leaning towards Sarah's beginner method but i wanna know your guys' opinions.

I'd go with Sarah's Beginner method first, then you can learn some of the intermediate algs. It's a very easy method to learn.

 

[kcl]

I am finally getting a LanLan skewb tomorrow!
What method would you guys suggest? I think I am leaning towards Sarah's beginner method but i wanna know your guys' opinions.

Sarah beginner to get used to the puzzle. Learn intermediate if you want to get faster.

 

[Hypocrism]

Are there any skewb solving prorammes?

I'm starting skewb and interested to see what can be done to permute centres when inserting the last corner of a layer, but I haven't had any success in generating algs by hand.

 

[Michael Womack]

Are there any skewb solving prorammes?

I'm starting skewb and interested to see what can be done to permute centres when inserting the last corner of a layer, but I haven't had any success in generating algs by hand.

http://www.ultimatemagiccube.com/ You can try that program and make a skewb in it and play around with it.

 

[Hypocrism]

http://www.ultimatemagiccube.com/ You can try that program and make a skewb in it and play around with it.

Thanks. I have a physical skewb though, I'm looking for something that can solve cases like CubeExplorer, preferably able to ignore pieces as well. I don't know if this exists for skewb or not!

 

[Ranzha]

Are there any skewb solving prorammes?

I'm starting skewb and interested to see what can be done to permute centres when inserting the last corner of a layer, but I haven't had any success in generating algs by hand.

Ksolve+ will be your best friend then! A quick search will get you to that thread, and I posted some def files for skewb on a later page.

 

[goodatthis]

Has anyone explored method neutrality with Skewb? I use Sarah's intermediate (w/ some tricks) but I have noticed recently that Petrus block skips happen fairly often, at least for me.

 

[Ranzha]

Has anyone explored method neutrality with Skewb? I use Sarah's intermediate (w/ some tricks) but I have noticed recently that Petrus block skips happen fairly often, at least for me.

This rarely happens for me.
Sometimes I end up with one of the nice pure CLS cases or an acubist case and just do them.

 

[kcl]

This rarely happens for me.
Sometimes I end up with one of the nice pure CLS cases or an acubist case and just do them.

It happens very frequently if you're CN..

 

[Ranzha]

It happens very frequently if you're CN..

I'm opposite neutral, which would mean I'd see them 2/3 the time as CN people.

I rarely see them.

 

[Hypocrism]

Ksolve+ will be your best friend then! A quick search will get you to that thread, and I posted some def files for skewb on a later page.

This is such a great program.

Using your FCN definition, I am attempting to for example solve the case where three corners (1, 3, 6 in your definition) need a clockwise twist, disregarding centres. This is my scramble file and it searches, but finds no solutions:

Scramble Sune136
corners
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
2 0 2 0 0 2 0 0
centres
?1 ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6
End

I hope this is the right place to ask this!

EDIT: Never mind, I got it to work with FCeN instead.

I'm now looking at a method which solves one tetrad first while permuting the second (normally 4 moves), orients the second (about 6-8 moves), and then does centres. I haven't looked at L6C yet, but the first step is intuitive and the second has just a few cases which are rapid and often involve good fingertricks.

Question is, does this exist already and does it sound promising to anybody more experienced in skewb?

 

[Izanagi]

So........ What'd I Miss?

Hello people! XD
I started in January, then took a great long 7 month break from skewbing, and now that things have settled, I am back.
I use Sarah Intermediate, averaging around 12 seconds, and what I noticed is Ranzha is the WR holder for single now (along with Kloso). I noticed since Ranzhas method was the one I initially started to practice but it was kinda complex for me so i switched to Sarahs.

So anyway, anyone kind enough to point out things I missed? Like, improvements in methods, variations, tricks etc? I know i could search the forums for the same but I kinda wanted your crisp inputs!

XD

 

[antoineccantin]

Hello people! XD
I started in January, then took a great long 7 month break from skewbing, and now that things have settled, I am back.
I use Sarah Intermediate, averaging around 12 seconds, and what I noticed is Ranzha is the WR holder for single now (along with Kloso). I noticed since Ranzhas method was the one I initially started to practice but it was kinda complex for me so i switched to Sarahs.

So anyway, anyone kind enough to point out things I missed? Like, improvements in methods, variations, tricks etc? I know i could search the forums for the same but I kinda wanted your crisp inputs!

XD

I got 4.54 WR average, first one ever to beat Jonatan. The week after, he gets 3.15 WR average -_______________________________________________________-

 

[Ranzha]

Hello people! XD
I started in January, then took a great long 7 month break from skewbing, and now that things have settled, I am back.
I use Sarah Intermediate, averaging around 12 seconds, and what I noticed is Ranzha is the WR holder for single now (along with Kloso). I noticed since Ranzhas method was the one I initially started to practice but it was kinda complex for me so i switched to Sarahs.

So anyway, anyone kind enough to point out things I missed? Like, improvements in methods, variations, tricks etc? I know i could search the forums for the same but I kinda wanted your crisp inputs!

XD

Hax for my method is basically done
Stay tuned to CubingWorld on YouTube

 

[kcl]

Hello people! XD
I started in January, then took a great long 7 month break from skewbing, and now that things have settled, I am back.
I use Sarah Intermediate, averaging around 12 seconds, and what I noticed is Ranzha is the WR holder for single now (along with Kloso). I noticed since Ranzhas method was the one I initially started to practice but it was kinda complex for me so i switched to Sarahs.

So anyway, anyone kind enough to point out things I missed? Like, improvements in methods, variations, tricks etc? I know i could search the forums for the same but I kinda wanted your crisp inputs!

XD

Antoine had WR for a week, then Jonatan got 3.15 wr, I got 3.76 NAR.

 

[CyanSandwich]

Does anyone have some good algs for the last 3 Sarah's intermediate cases and Z perm?

Edit: also, how do you make text a link? It was supposed to say "the last 3" where the link is instead of showing the link.
Edit2: OOPS. I switched the URL and the text. Fixed.

 

[Bindedsa]

Does anyone have some good algs for the last 3 Sarah's intermediate cases and Z perm?

Edit: also, how do you make text a link? It was supposed to say "the last 3" where the link is instead of showing the link.
Edit2: OOPS. I switched the URL and the text. Fixed.

For pure peanut, here's the notation.

Edit: Just realized you might mean when you do that case and get a Z perm. For peanut, that should be a 3 sledge case found here. For the others, just do the mirror and you will get a U perm.