Shengshou 6x6?

[unirox13]

Someone call you ignorant and you change your mind??? and I really think they are not doing the right thing. At the end I just hope they find a way to sell the SS 6x6, just like the X-cube 4.

Can we all at least agree on some level that if for no reason than the expansion of this hobby, skill, art, what have you, that this be resolved in a civil manner and that the SS 6x6 be released? When the people that are good at something become excited for a new prop or piece of equipment 'tis usually safe to assume that said product will help to expand, in some way, the art in question. I'd love to see this cube released just as I one day hope someone other than Dayan creates an amazing 3x3.

 

[Hershey]

I one day hope someone other than Dayan creates an amazing 3x3.

Ummm, we already have the ShengEn type F-II and the Alpha V? Especially Alpha, great cubes...

 

[unirox13]

Ummm, we already have the ShengEn type F-II and the Alpha V? Especially Alpha, great cubes...

I realize this, it was more a comparitive example. I wasn't trying to say that Dayan has the only good 3x3's however they have helped to raise the bar, in much the same way that a lot of us feel the SS 6x6 would do.

 

[chrissyD]

I think verdes does have the right to protect his ideas. If anyone watches F1 then you'll know red bull do everything they can to hide their exhaust system. Verdes can't really hide his mech though so naturally alot of people are gonna copy it. I think if the v6 was better and not a piece of crap then nobody would copy it because there would be no need to. shengshou offer a 6x6 that is better and requires no modification. The v6 is crap out of the box and requires either modding or a hell of alot of breaking in and I know which I'd prefer.

 

[James Ludlow]

I think if the v6 was better and not a piece of crap then nobody would copy it because there would be no need to. shengshou offer a 6x6 that is better and requires no modification. The v6 is crap out of the box and requires either modding or a hell of alot of breaking in and I know which I'd prefer.

See, that's the problem you want everything right now, for free. How ****ing hard is it to rip a cube apart, get a bit of sandpaper out, and glue a couple of pins (which is optional btw - you can still get 2.41.72 on an unmodded cube, probably even quicker)

I have had a lot of KOs die, and yet my V5,V6 and V7 are still going strong after 2years. I've dropped them, thrown them, kicked them.....
Ask any UK cuber how **** hot my big cubes are - they just get better and better. (Its a shame they are wasted on me though )

As much as it pains me to say this - Vcubes do make better quality cubes. Okay they are more expensive, but I do think they last a lot longer to warrant spending the little extra.

And just think, by buying genuine vcube products you can help support the fragile Greek economy!

All this aside - I should have a SS5 coming soon though. Hypocrite.

 

[Kirjava]

Maybe we should all go back to before v-cubes came out, and we can all not have anything but ES and Rubiks 5x5s and no 6x6s and 7x7s. It would stop all this pointless KO discussion because no one except verdes would know how to make one.

You're dumb if you think that without VCubes we'd all still be using ES.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

Funny how much people can argue over the mech without seeing the mech (even if it almost certainly KO, considering the SS 4x4 and 5x5).

While I agree with everything Dan said, I reckon V-Cubes should change their act a little to release their cubes faster/improve their existing cubes. If a cube requires a lot of modification to make it good, then it is clearly a badly designed product, which is a shame considering how much potential the hardware has. They even seem to add features to make the products worse, such as the bumps on the corners of the V5 and V6. Yes, a fully modded V6 is a decent cube (I've taken considerable time and effort to fully mod mine, far more than I feel should be necessary), but V-Cubes would have more support from the community if they had made these small (and imo usually fairly obvious) changes to their products before they released them, or if they brought out improved versions. It might not be fair, but I'm certainly not surprised that so many people disrespect V-Cubes and kick up so much fuss over these issues, which ultimately seems to result in people being less inclined to buy the legitimate products, and turn to companies like ShengShou who produce cubes which are good without any modification.

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

Well, I obviously don't know for certain whats happening but I have an idea.
A while back on the TwistyPuzzles forum, someone mentioned that V-cubes was making a clickless V-6 and that it was a high priority.
The other thing is last time they did this to stores, they dropped the argument and released the V-2/2b.
So while I don't know what they are doing, its looking hopeful for the near future.
(Disclaimer: I may be way off the mark here, so don't get angry if I'm completely wrong)

Also I can vouch for Ludlow's big cubes being amazing. No, seriously. Amazing...

 

[asportking]

By the way, has anyone managed to contact 51morefun about whether or not the SS 6x6 was actually taken down by Verdes? I tried emailing them, but I haven't heard anything back.

 

[chrissyD]

See, that's the problem you want everything right now, for free. How ****ing hard is it to rip a cube apart, get a bit of sandpaper out, and glue a couple of pins

It may not be hard to do that but we shouldn't have to do that. It's like buying a table and having to sand down one of the legs because its far too long. Why should we have to do the work the company should be doing. And yes you probably can get good times on an unmodified cube but I'd imagine you can get much better times on a modified cube with no more effort. For me its either v cube improve their product or i buy a SS6.

 

[aaronb]

By the way, has anyone managed to contact 51morefun about whether or not the SS 6x6 was actually taken down by Verdes? I tried emailing them, but I haven't heard anything back.

Funny you ask, I emailed them last night, and got a reply this morning saying:

"Hi,Sir
thanks for your message!
For some well-known reasons,we have to remove some products from our store. But we still have them in stock.
If you need them,you can buy them offline.
thanks
-Champion"

Based I this I think it is safe to assume, it is V-cubes that took the cubes down.

 

[unirox13]

Funny you ask, I emailed them last night, and got a reply this morning saying:

"Hi,Sir
thanks for your message!
For some well-known reasons,we have to remove some products from our store. But we still have them in stock.
If you need them,you can buy them offline.
thanks
-Champion"

Based I this I think it is safe to assume, it is V-cubes that took the cubes down.

Good to know, I just sent an email to Champion and hopefully I'll have my SS 6x6 pre-ordered by tonight.

 

[chris410]

Glad i checked this thread, looks like i will follow up on my order as well.

 

[asportking]

Funny you ask, I emailed them last night, and got a reply this morning saying:

"Hi,Sir
thanks for your message!
For some well-known reasons,we have to remove some products from our store. But we still have them in stock.
If you need them,you can buy them offline.
thanks
-Champion"

Based I this I think it is safe to assume, it is V-cubes that took the cubes down.

So how to you buy them offline? Do you just have to email them?

 

[aaronb]

So how to you buy them offline? Do you just have to email them?

I am assuming that is what he meant. I would just email him asking if you could order "Insert claimed KO cube here," and it seems like he will reply within a day or so.

 

[nakedaxe]

ok I'm the original person that told this thread that v cubes has taken the shengshou 6x6x6 off of champions site and people are wondering how I know this. I know this because I placed a rather large order from champions, which included the 11x11 and the shengshou 6x6. My credit card was billed and the cubes were paid for. I was told that the 11x11 was shipped but the other cubes are going to wait until the 6x6 comes in to ship my order out. Then a couple days later I went to champions cube store to look at pictures again because I was obsessing lol and the 11x11 and the 6x6 were taken down. I've never ordered from this company before so I don't know if they are legit or not right, so I contact them on their YouTube page and said what the ****? They told me that they had to take both cubes down because they have been told it's patent infringing. WHO ELSE would do that? The company with the v cubes of course.

anyway, they are still sending my **** because it's paid for.

Also, I advise everybody NOT to tell others on forums that champions are still selling them even though it's not on the webpage. They have been targeted now and if you keep selling a patented product after being told not to, you can get in a LOT of trouble. If v cubes see this or any other thread stating that this company is still selling them, it's possible we could damage the company that was trying to get us a fine product.

Another thing... **** YOU V CUBES!

 

[nakedaxe]

ok I've bought 2 v cube 6's. One black and one white. I modded the white one with the Pi mod. Turned out beautiful, however when I did it with the black one I messed it up and now it's useless. TOTALLY my fault I'll admit, however it would have never happened if I didn't need to mod it. so when it comes down to it, I spent 70 bucks and another 15 on shipping to have ONE just ok speed cube. OR, I can get this "knock-off" and spend 20 bucks with free shipping and it be awesome right away... and TENSIONABLE!! that's the biggest part. Tensionable. v cube FAIL for sure!...

I used to love v cubes, now I don't like what they stand for and their puzzles are pretty much **** compared to the people that took the v cube design and made it better. Like the shengshou 5x5. WAY better than the v cubes, and it's just a slight mod of the v 5.

 

[asportking]

Is Chris Bird still going to review the cube now that it's a KO? Also, should we even still be talking about this cube? I mean, we're technically not supposed to be talking about knockoff cubes, and now that this cube is a KO.....

 

[iEnjoyCubing]

Is Chris Bird still going to review the cube now that it's a KO? Also, should we even still be talking about this cube? I mean, we're technically not supposed to be talking about knockoff cubes, and now that this cube is a KO.....

From what I've seen it doesn't even look like a KO. I think it's just been defined as that by Verdes (I have no idea if this is true or not, I'm just relating what I have seen through pictures). I mean, if the Shengshou 4x4/5x5 are ok, why not the 6x6?

 

[Hershey]

What if V-cube and Shengshou team up to make new cubes?
(Meh, it is probably not going to happen.)