luke1984
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If this is true, Verdes is either confused, or just a very sad man.
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If this is true, Verdes is either confused, or just a very sad man.
Tim Major
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Seems my site isn't big enough to receive notice. The first I've heard about it. If V-cubes makes a public announcement or contacts me privately I'll stop. But what they're doing is taking down paypals without contacting owners.
chrissyD
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if verdes wants his crappy 6x6 to be the only 6x6 available then he should get his thumb out of his ass and make a new improved 6x6 that isn't total ****. That's what we want and that's his fricken job so why dosen't he do it
choza244
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I remember when Verdes wanted to take out the GuHong... this is the same but now they want to take out every cube from the market!! ok, maybe I'm exaggerating but they are ridiculous, we have to do something if we want this hobby to grow up. I don't even understand why paypal locks down some accounts just because Mr. Verdes says they are selling KOs, they don't even make an investigation to see if at least is true, if Verdes says to paypal that the mf8 megaminx is a KO of the V-cube 5 they will believe him and will lock down evry shop till they remove it... if anyone wants to do something against V-cubes I'm in.
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Follow my and hopefully other's leads. Go to v-cubes.com and send a well worded, polite, but to the point message to the company about how you feel. Make sure not to curse and to present yourself in such a way that it makes you seem intelligent. Yes you have a point that you want to make, but you've also got to make yourself look like a sane, rational human being, otherwise no good will come from it.
I'm sick of this crap too, mostly because the other things I'm involved with don't have these types of issues because the companies are all trying to help allow their respective sport/hobby grow. Verdes needs to get off of his high horse and allow the same thing to happen; especially when the products in question aren't at all KO's of his products.
Please I urge all of you to take your concerns directly to the source.
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You, know, verdes could have dementia, that would explain all the crazy things he's been doing with the patent enfringement, but honestly I'm +1ing all of you people, he should either make more decent cubes ( like the 5x5) or allow better cubes to be made and sold.
emolover
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That is a bit rude. He doesn't have dementia, he just wants to monopolize the cubing business.
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You can't be serious. They JUST released the V-Cube 2 and you still think they aren't continuing development of cubes? Wtf.
emolover
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I wouldn't say the just released a new cube. That was about 7 months ago.
asportking
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In seven months, shengshou has released a 5x5, 6x6, and a new version of a 4x4 (possibly two new versions?). Just thought I'd say that.
emolover
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**Knowing I will get crap for saying this but I will anyway**
And that is why ShenShou trumps V-cube.
masterofthebass
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Its a lot easier to copy stuff in China than it is to invent stuff in Greece.
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Recently, at least.
choza244
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yes Dan, but is also hard to invent stuff in China.
masterofthebass
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And yet Dayan is the only company coming out with new mechanisms. Maybe we should all go back to before v-cubes came out, and we can all not have anything but ES and Rubiks 5x5s and no 6x6s and 7x7s. It would stop all this pointless KO discussion because no one except verdes would know how to make one.
asportking
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We're not saying that v-cube is ALL bad. I, at least, give them credit for coming up with a mechanism to work past 5x5. However, that doesn't justify them going around suing every cube that resembles their mechanism in the tiniest way. Like I said before, it's awfully hard to make a cube larger than a 5x5 that doesn't resemble the v-cube mech is some way.
masterofthebass
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Thats exactly the point... V-Cubes came up with the way to make cubes larger than 5x5. They have the right to protect their ideas and profit off of them, or at least thats how western society has viewed it since the 1700s. Just because you aren't happy with how V-Cubes is running their business doesn't mean that they don't have the right to profit off of their ideas. That is why the patent system exists, and why people take the time and resources to invent things. Like I said, copying something is easy... inventing isn't.
asportking
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They're not copying it. That's what a YJ 6x6 is. The shengshou 6x6 shares some similarities, but it's been improved upon enough that it can hardly be called a copy.
choza244
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But now he just cares about his money and not the hobby, he is blocking the hobby to grow up. Taking out the cubes that the people want is just making everyone angry, simply because for the eyes of the majority (including me) he is trying to take out a lot of cubes that are not copies of his design, I agree with you that if it wasn't for him maybe no one would know how to make those cubes, but what if the man/company who invented the tv sued every other company that tried to produce a tv, there would be just one brand selling tvs, one brand selling cars, etc. just think about how similar all the cars are... My point is that if he keeps playing unfair he will just lose his clients.
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