Rubik's Cube 2.0 Released

Has anyone tried to cut/shorten/replace the springs in the 2.0 to make it move more like the speed cube? :)
 
stensgaard said:
Has anyone tried to cut/shorten/replace the springs in the 2.0 to make it move more like the speed cube? :)
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Well there is a speedcube version so doing so could be fixed by buying the speed cube.. I'd like to see how a center piece mod to fix reverse corner cutting would turn out
 
The slow cube is not for the speedcubing community, it's for common people, younger children, elders, etc. I think it is a requirement for being really stiff, unpoppable and durable. And it also has to be tight - if you have a loose cube, there is a huge temptation to take it (or break it!) apart. So I completly understand why they did the slow cube in this way.
 
Renslay said:
The slow cube is not for the speedcubing community, it's for common people, younger children, elders, etc. I think it is a requirement for being really stiff, unpoppable and durable. And it also has to be tight - if you have a loose cube, there is a huge temptation to take it (or break it!) apart. So I completly understand why they did the slow cube in this way.
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THIS GUY is saying exactly what I have thought all along. Anybody who thinks they just did this to make us buy the slightly more expensive speedcube version is full of it. Rubik's (seven towns, whatever) made it this way on purpose: With the intention of a long lasting cube. After all, no serious speedcuber has stayed with the same cube longer than a year at most as their main. So they don't get the full use out of it, in which case it eventually breaks apart and becomes unusable (this has happened with an OPZ of mine.) The purpose of the speedcube is exactly that. But the longer lasting tighter version is just so it lasts longer. Some people still have Rubik's brands that are easily 20 years or older, I've got a friend whose Mom used to cube back when it was cool in the 80's and she still has one. (Antique cube!)
 
Renslay said:
The slow cube is not for the speedcubing community, it's for common people, younger children, elders, etc. I think it is a requirement for being really stiff, unpoppable and durable. And it also has to be tight - if you have a loose cube, there is a huge temptation to take it (or break it!) apart. So I completly understand why they did the slow cube in this way.
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I really don't understand why is stiffness a requirement. The idea of performing a movement is the undelying base for a twisty puzzle. If doing the movement involves difficulty in execution up to the point of being painful, I don't see how that benefits the brand and the puzzle itself.
When you buy rollerskates, you do want them to roll with ease, not have them completely stiff, affraid people may fall if they use it. They have a proper age limitation (like a rubik's cube) and if people don't respect their usage, the rollerskates company isn't being sued because someone hit their head while wearing them. (is it?)
Concerning poppability, the modern popping prevention designs furthermore with extremely tight tensions are as unpoppable as a rubik's stiff cube. If someone *really* wants to pop a cube, it's possible to pop no matter what kind of cube it is. Comparing the necessary effort of a kid wanting to swallow a piece from a stiff rubik's to one of the modern mechanism cube at a really tight tension is generally the same. "Accidents" will happen no matter what kind of stiffness it is.
About durability I think they have made an improvement for the better in using plastic tiles instead of stickers. Contributes to durability cleanliness and neat feeling of the puzzle for the general audience. Hope they don't come off easily or kids will have a field day eating them like skittles!
I've always felt the regular Rubik's cube to be a very high missrepresentation of what a cubing puzzle should be for its potential users.
I feel the ordinary people that buy a cube (young or adult) want to be able to use it more than 5 moves without hurting and throwing it aside in frustration and boredom. That doesn't help sales and popularity at all in my view. But, of course, there are applications for stiff cubes. Rubik's cubes are used in physical therapy patients with problems in their hands forcing them to move faces to produce movement. That's an acceptable market for the puzzle, but it's still a very niche market when compared to the global market.
Nevertheless, I'm happy that there's a faster alternative by Rubik's. By the looks of it, it's not as perfect as it could be, but anything that is geared towards regular people using them without hurting is good.
 
Renslay said:
The Hungarian Open will be this weekend. I think you might find this interesting (this is from the news sent to the registered competitiors):

"(...) As you can see on the time schedule there will be an unofficial 3x3x3 event with prize money. You can compete, if you advance into the official 3x3x3 final, but you don’t have to. During this event the WCA regulations will be followed, but the results won’t be official. The only criterion of competing is to use an original, new type Rubik’s Cube, which will be provided by the Rubik Studio."

I'm curious about the results...
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If this is a Seven Towns marketing strategy, I'm not sure I understand the purpose. Current speedcubers aren't going to switch to a Rubik's 2.0 even if they are forced to use this in an unofficial competition. Maybe new cubers wouldn't know the difference, but wouldn't they notice the top cubers getting significantly worse times on these? I just don't see how this is good for Seven Towns at all.
 
Michael Womack said:
I agree with you Cubeizh but for me if I want someone to enjoy playing/solving a Rubik's cube puzzle I want it to be a good turning puzzle but not as fast as a Dayan cube. I would also not want to hear form them saying "Why won't this Rubik's cube puzzle turn?"
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Michael, you're probably one of my favorite cubers. You are always so awesome, everything that you say is meaningful and worth hearing.
BUt, you're just not as fast as some. Some people ONLY find they happiness that comes with cubing by doing so fast. Seeing 6.81 on a timer is what gives me the kick out of cubing I love so much. That being said, Rubik's old brand is hard to get enjoyment out of. (My pb is like 9.9x on Rubik's brand)
Btw, I found a video of somebody using a prototype Rubik's 2.0 ten months ago, before I even started cubing. I guess it's the Rubik's 1.5b ;P
 
Dapianokid said:
Michael, you're probably one of my favorite cubers. You are always so awesome, everything that you say is meaningful and worth hearing.
BUt, you're just not as fast as some. Some people ONLY find they happiness that comes with cubing by doing so fast. Seeing 6.81 on a timer is what gives me the kick out of cubing I love so much. That being said, Rubik's old brand is hard to get enjoyment out of. (My pb is like 9.9x on Rubik's brand)
Btw, I found a video of somebody using a prototype Rubik's 2.0 ten months ago, before I even started cubing. I guess it's the Rubik's 1.5b ;P
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But I was more talking about the people who are not into Speedsolving/cubing like we are. Also before there was the ShengShou 6x6 there was the V-cube 6x6 that is very clicky and not a very good turning puzzle. But with the V-cube 6x6 we would have ether modded it to make it smother or just left it as is with no modding. And at the time the V-cube 6x6 mod was a good mod but allot of people would attempt the mod and sometimes fail resulting an unusable 6x6.
 
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cubizh said:
(...) I feel the ordinary people that buy a cube (young or adult) want to be able to use it more than 5 moves without hurting and throwing it aside in frustration and boredom. (...)
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You're right, a cube which is painful to turn is pretty bad. But that was the old design. The 2.0 is not painful at all, it is just tight in a healthy way. And for wrist-turns (i.e., no fingertricks, which is unnecessary in this case) is actually quite comfortable - a huge improvement from the old design (I know, I actually have one).

EDIT: But thankfully, they recognised that, so they made two versions (the slow cube and the speedcube), and everyone can decide which one he wants to give as a gift for their children for Christmas. Or similar.
 
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Michael Womack said:
for me if I want someone to enjoy playing/solving a Rubik's cube puzzle I want it to be a good turning puzzle but not as fast as a Dayan cube.
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Of course. Completely loose or too fast is not the desired effect for a general purpose puzzle either. Something that doesn't hurt or is a chore to turn or doesn't lock up to milimetric precision should be the desired goal.
Renslay said:
You're right, a cube which is painful to turn is pretty bad. But that was the old design. The 2.0 is not painful at all, it is just tight in a healthy way. And for wrist-turns (i.e., no fingertricks, which is unnecessary in this case) is actually quite comfortable - a huge improvement from the old design (I know, I actually have one).
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I will check for myself as soon as I find a local store that carries them :)
 
Was going to just ask this, are the speed versions going to be sold in stores? Almost positive I'd impulse buy one at a store rather than order from rubik's .com
 
I just received mine today and I must say I am very pleased with them. I wish I bought another to mess around with modding the centers, though. Otherwise its a decent speedcube.
 
Michael Womack said:
which one the speed or the 2.0?
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I got the speed cube. Keep in mind, to anyone who is buying, the tension are not set too well in all cubes. I got 3 for myself, a friend, and my brother, and one cube was much looser and caught more than the other two. It's a good speedcube to start out with.

I feel that if the centers were modded to improve reverse corner cutting, as normal cutting is fine, and the cube was lubed and tensioned well, it could be people's mains who like the cubes feel, as others have said. I don't like how it catches personally.
 
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Michael Womack said:
But I was more talking about the people who are not into Speedsolving/cubing like we are. Also before there was the ShengShou 6x6 there was the V-cube 6x6 that is very clicky and not a very good turning puzzle. But with the V-cube 6x6 we would have ether modded it to make it smother or just left it as is with no modding. And at the time the V-cube 6x6 mod was a good mod but allot of people would attempt the mod and sometimes fail resulting an unusable 6x6.
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That's a good point. I haven't been around long enough to know what it's like to NOT have options and large selection in the events I focus on. I haven't been around long enough to have to take what I get and deal with it. Even still, either SS 5x5 could be better than it is, or I'm just a horribly inaccurate turner who thinks I have a bad cube. Rubik's brand is gold in the hands of a new cuber, and a Weilong would be considered otherworldly. So I guess it's a matter of perspective.
 
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