Rubik's Brand lawsuit against The Cubicle

[shadowslice e]

Trust me, I think I know full well how this works, but keep believing what you want.

Meanwhile, there are things we can do besides arguing semantics back and forth.

Exactly how many cubes do you think are bought from Rubik's by cubers each year?

And how many cubes are bought in general by cubers from all brands?

 

[Ordway Persyn]

obviously, I don't want Rubik's to win this. Boycotting usually never really works well in that the act of doing so actually puts more attention to the company that were trying to boycott. In some cases when people boycott companies for stupid reasons, It makes me want to support said company. I haven't bought a Rubik's brand since becoming a cuber and this lawsuit does make me less likely to buy one. It won't change anything either if they win this case, the amount of competition they eliminate will out way the losses they will lose with. I'm certain that cubers are less than 0.5% of the Population here in the US, and many of us don't buy Rubiks to begin with. You seem to be very stubborn, though In this case may be somewhat understandable, as we are all nervous about the worst happening. I think TheCubicle has the better legal ground, and Rubik's lost a similar case in Europe, so I think Rubik's has a good chance of loosing the court battle.

 

[DMCubing]

Exactly how many cubes do you think are bought from Rubik's by cubers each year?

And how many cubes are bought in general by cubers from all brands?

See my second paragraph. I've said what I needed to say and don't plan on beating a dead horse.

Boycott if you feel like it, or not. No one is holding a gun to your head to do anything.

obviously, I don't want Rubik's to win this. Boycotting usually never really works well in that the act of doing so actually puts more attention to the company that were trying to boycott. In some cases when people boycott companies for stupid reasons, It makes me want to support said company. I haven't bought a Rubik's brand since becoming a cuber and this lawsuit does make me less likely to buy one. It won't change anything either if they win this case, the amount of competition they eliminate will out way the losses they will lose with. I'm certain that cubers are less than 0.5% of the Population here in the US, and many of us don't buy Rubiks to begin with. You seem to be very stubborn, though In this case may be somewhat understandable, as we are all nervous about the worst happening. I think TheCubicle has the better legal ground, and Rubik's lost a similar case in Europe, so I think Rubik's has a good chance of loosing the court battle.

Boycotting works. No one is forcing you to do anything. No point in me continuing this argument.

 

[shadowslice e]

See my second paragraph. I've said what I needed to say and don't plan on beating a dead horse.

Boycott if you feel like it, or not. No one is holding a gun to your head to do anything.

I'm pointing out that your points are wrong. Non-cubers outnumber cubers by such a huge amount that even if non-cubers only "buy one cube and then stop", the sheer number of people buying one will outweigh however many cubes the totality of cubers get. In addition, (barring you it seems) the vast majority of cubers also "buy one and then stop" meaning that even if every single cuber went out of their way to avoid buying Rubik's products it would barely make a dent in their sales figures.

I would also like to see more evidence in you statement that "boycotting works" when the boycotters are in the minority of people buying the product.

Lastly, most cubers will not be repeat purchasers of Rubik's products so are essentially boycotting it without even having to make a change meaning that it would make an even smaller difference than if cubers bought only Rubik's products (which would still be dwarfed by the sales to non-cubers).

TL;DR as cubers purchase so few Rubik's products they would not notice any difference.

 

[Duncan Bannon]

I'm pointing out that your points are wrong. Non-cubers outnumber cubers by such a huge amount that even if non-cubers only "buy one cube and then stop", the sheer number of people buying one will outweigh however many cubes the totality of cubers get. In addition, (barring you it seems) the vast majority of cubers also "buy one and then stop" meaning that even if every single cuber went out of their way to avoid buying Rubik's products it would barely make a dent in their sales figures.

I would also like to see more evidence in you statement that "boycotting works" when the boycotters are in the minority of people buying the product.

Lastly, most cubers will not be repeat purchasers of Rubik's products so are essentially boycotting it without even having to make a change meaning that it would make an even smaller difference than if cubers bought only Rubik's products (which would still be dwarfed by the sales to non-cubers).

TL;DR as cubers purchase so few Rubik's products they would not notice any difference.

I think this is wrong, the reason they are suing the cubicle, is because they dont have enough money. Thus meaning most people have a Rubik’s cube and they dont need another. Only speedcubers are making purchases.

 

[cuber314159]

Boycotting works. No one is forcing you to do anything. No point in me continuing this argument.

I've essentially boycotted Rubik's since I got my first apeedcube, if moyu or qiyi did something like this then it would be harder for us to boycott them but with Rubik's, I would say most cubers have already boycotted Rubik's for years, but it is still a good idea to tell Rubik's that we don't like what they are doing. Boycotting Rubik's won't do much as I have essentially boycotted them anyway

 

[shadowslice e]

I think this is wrong, the reason they are suing the cubicle, is because they dont have enough money. Thus meaning most people have a Rubik’s cube and they dont need another. Only speedcubers are making purchases.

Can I have a citation for this?
Because these:
https://companycheck.co.uk/company/08431416/RUBIKS-BRAND-LIMITED/financials
https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/08431416-rubik-s-brand-limited
appear to stand in direct contradiction to it.

 

[cuber314159]

Anyone have any objection with me sending first one to Rubik's?

Please subscribe as a video may come soon when I smash Rubik's points against the cubicle in their lawsuit

 

[ParzivalCubing]

Anyone have any objection with me sending first one to Rubik's?

Please subscribe as a video may come soon when I smash Rubik's points against the cubicle in their lawsuit

Maybe it's worth dropping an email to any of these three:
Rubik's General Enquiries (DIRECT EMAIL ADDRESS): [email protected]
Seven Towns: [email protected]
Or why not tell Rubik's (Plaintiff's) Attorneys directly: [email protected] or [email protected]
^^ Source: The bottom of the lawsuit page

Also, be rather careful when you pursue an Attorney...
Hope I could help

 

[Tabe]

I would also like to see more evidence in you statement that "boycotting works" when the boycotters are in the minority of people buying the product.

The 1960s Civil Rights Movement in the US is example A-1 that boycotting works.

 

[shadowslice e]

The 1960s Civil Rights Movement in the US is example A-1 that boycotting works.

Were they in the vast minority of people using the bus?

 

[Tabe]

I've essentially boycotted Rubik's since I got my first apeedcube, if moyu or qiyi did something like this then it would be harder for us to boycott them but with Rubik's, I would say most cubers have already boycotted Rubik's for years, but it is still a good idea to tell Rubik's that we don't like what they are doing. Boycotting Rubik's won't do much as I have essentially boycotted them anyway

Were they in the vast minority of people using the bus?

Fair point.

 

[Max Cruz]

Boycotting everything they make might get their attention, and this includes the Gan Rubik's RSC. Don't buy a thing with their brand on it. We're their biggest sales base.

Nope. Nope. And... Nope. If we are actually "speedcubers," thus differentiating ourselves from those "noobs" who buy Rubik's brands, how can boycotting Rubik's help? Don't we already? Isn't that why we are trying to save thecubicle.us? Hypocrite much?

 

[cuber314159]

I know it's quite long but you can always try it at double speed

 

[DMCubing]

Nope. Nope. And... Nope. If we are actually "speedcubers," thus differentiating ourselves from those "noobs" who buy Rubik's brands, how can boycotting Rubik's help? Don't we already? Isn't that why we are trying to save thecubicle.us? Hypocrite much?

Hypocrite much? Juvenile. But I'll reply.

Rubik's is more involved in cubing than just making an inferior cube. They actually sponsored Worlds 2017 in Paris. They apparently have an association with Gan. Boycotting means not supporting their company through many ways besides not buying their cubes. It could include not participating in any Rubik's sponsored events, not supporting their company by staying away from any other brands associated with them, and not buying their products.

A lot here seem to misunderstand what a boycott truly actually is. There's more action involved than inaction. It's about getting their attention.

 

[Mellis Ferton]

If this lawsuit goes through, and TheCubicle wins, Rubik's might start going after retailers AND producers.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

They actually sponsored Worlds 2017 in Paris ... It could include not participating in any Rubik's sponsored events

You want people to boycott Rubik's by not going to competitions they sponsor? Boycotting genius at work here, everyone take note. Worlds 2019 will be so much less interesting if nobody competes, but at least we'll be making a point.

 

[DMCubing]

You want people to boycott Rubik's by not going to competitions they sponsor? Boycotting genius at work here, everyone take note. Worlds 2019 will be so much less interesting if nobody competes, but at least we'll be making a point.

You don't have to be rude. Anyway you all can have it your way. I'm finished replying here. Not many seem genuinely interested in a solution and seem more interested in arguing back and forth. Good luck with that.

 

[One Wheel]

Guys... what effect on the cubing community as a whole will it have if rubik's actually wins?

It will be harder (not impossible, but harder) to get cubes, because US-based retailers will be shut down. This will lead to no competitions sponsored by US-based retailers, and with decreased sales (and the chance of cubes being seized in customs) development of puzzles by Chinese manufacturers will likely stall.

 

[Competition Cuber]

It will be harder (not impossible, but harder) to get cubes, because US-based retailers will be shut down. This will lead to no competitions sponsored by US-based retailers, and with decreased sales (and the chance of cubes being seized in customs) development of puzzles by Chinese manufacturers will likely stall.

Not joking, Im scared that cubing might actually change in the US.