# Road to sub-10 with ZZ (ZZ progression starts after some pages since this was previously used for something else. Don't mind about the poll)

## How fast do you think I will become with my method?

• ### Sub-7

• Total voters
26

#### V Achyuthan

##### Member
I use Mehta with 28 algs. OCLL and PLL.
Lol nice

Did only 25 solves today because I was tired.
PB = 9.14 (
)
Best Ao5 = 16.30
Best Ao12 = 18.24
Best Ao25 = 19.01

#### LukasCubes

##### Member
mehta is great its just too many algs

#### BenChristman1

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mehta is great its just too many algs
Huh, that’s funny, because if you had read literally 3 short posts ago, you would have noticed that we have already had this conversation. Mehta can be a very low number of algs, or a very high number of algs; it’s a very flexible method.
Mehta is good but there are too many algs
I use Mehta with 28 algs. OCLL and PLL.

#### LukasCubes

##### Member
Huh, that’s funny, because if you had read literally 3 short posts ago, you would have noticed that we have already had this conversation. Mehta can be a very low number of algs, or a very high number of algs; it’s a very flexible method.
correct, but there are opprotunities waiting to learn them all

#### Megaminx lover

##### Member
6CP Mehta- 189 algs (known as the best path)
CFOP- 118 algs
Actually not that many algs

#### Cubing Forever

##### Member
6CP Mehta- 189 algs (known as the best path)
CFOP- 118 algs
Actually not that many algs
Yeah but 6CP isn't the best. CDRLL or TDR is.
TDR is 897 whereas CDRLL is 188 including EOLE.
(and those 188 algs are pretty easy to learn, not unlike OLL which is more in quantity but real easy to learn)

(or you could use intuitive TDR with only 28 algs(OCLL and PLL) like @BenChristman1 does )

#### Megaminx lover

##### Member
Yeah but 6CP isn't the best. CDRLL or TDR is.
TDR is 897 whereas CDRLL is 188 including EOLE.
(and those 188 algs are pretty easy to learn, not unlike OLL which is more in quantity but real easy to learn)

(or you could use intuitive TDR with only 28 algs(OCLL and PLL) like @BenChristman1 does )
The wiki says that 6CP is generally the best, followed by CDRLL, then TDR, then APDR/JTLE

#### Megaminx lover

##### Member
It's outdated. We decided that CDRLL is better a few days ago.
where

#### LBr

##### Member
Hi everyone.
I recently switched to Mehta from CFOP.
I am now sub-20 (ya I know I suck) with Mehta and I use intuitive APDR.
My goal is to become sub-12 by the end of the year.
Thank you all for your support.

These are today's/my first Ao100 with Mehta intuitive APDR.
PB = 11.59
PB Mo3 = 12.35
PB Ao5 = 14.15
PB Ao12 = 16.84
PB Ao25 = 18.38
PB Ao50 = 18.85
PB Ao100 = 19.55

#### CubeRed

##### Member
I think he stopped using it (Or stopped sharing his progression on it) because people told him it wasn't original. (Not to blame, but that'swhat happened) Either that or he just switched. Mehta is a pretty fun method.

#### BenChristman1

##### Member
Yeah but 6CP isn't the best. CDRLL or TDR is.
TDR is 897 whereas CDRLL is 188 including EOLE.
(and those 188 algs are pretty easy to learn, not unlike OLL which is more in quantity but real easy to learn)

(or you could use intuitive TDR with only 28 algs(OCLL and PLL) like @BenChristman1 does )
Intuitive TDR would suck. I do intuitive APDR. If I ever decide to main Mehta, I’ll probably learn all of 6CO, then OS between 6CP > L5EP or APDR > PLL.

#### V Achyuthan

##### Member
Today I started to solve with ZZ.
I got two damn good singles. They were not on cam though.
These are the singles.
F2 D2 B R2 B D2 F' U2 L2 B' L2 D2 R' D U R' U' L' D' F2 D
x2 y // inspection
B' U' F' D R' L // EOcross
U2 L' U2 L U L' U' L // 1st pair
U R U' R' U R U R' // 2nd pair
R' L U2 L' // 3rd pair
U2 R U R' U' R // 4th pair
U' r U R' U' r' F R F' U' // ZBLL
42 STM / 6.90 = 6.09 TPS
My first 6+ TPS
This solve was a 6.90

B D R F L' D2 R2 D B U B2 U' B2 U' L2 B2 U L2 D2
z2 // inspection
R' B' R L F L' R' F2 D' R' D2 // EO cross
U' R U' R' // 1st pair
L' U2 L // 2nd pair
R' U R U' L U L' // 4th pair
R U' R' U2 L R U' R' U L' // ZBLL
35 STM / 5.39 = 6.49 TPS

I average 13 now, With this variant of ZZ
EO cross
ZZ F2L
COLL/ZBLL
EPLLL if COLL is done in the previous step.

If anybody has any tips to get faster please let me know.
Thank you.

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#### Ultimatecuber0814

##### Member
Woah that's great!

#### Petro Leum

##### Member
That's a really good starting point if you already know COLL

EOCross is great for Two-Handed. Best of Luck!

#### V Achyuthan

##### Member
That's a really good starting point if you already know COLL

EOCross is great for Two-Handed. Best of Luck!
Thank you

Woah that's great!
Thank you

Today's solves (14/11/2021)
PB single - 5.39
PB Mo3 - 10.76
PB Ao5 - 10.90
PB Ao12 - 12.19
PB Ao50 - 13.13
PB Ao100 - 13.39
No. of sub-10s - 9
No. of solves - 176
1st day progress, not too bad I guess