dillonbladez
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Racing to sub-20
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ottothedog
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I would like to join the race,
I average around 30 and my best single time is sub 20 (in signature) I use fridrich method and know advanced cross/f2l, 2-look oll, and 1-look pll. Does anybody have advice for me?
Thanks
I average around 30 and my best single time is sub 20 (in signature) I use fridrich method and know advanced cross/f2l, 2-look oll, and 1-look pll. Does anybody have advice for me?
Thanks
cincyaviation
Veteran
i would advise you to do 12 solves with the scrambles in the first post in the thread and post your times here
ottothedog
Regular
Just did the first five and here are my times:
33.91
37.74 (fail)
22.38 (yay)
28.63
24.40
Avg. 29.41
33.91
37.74 (fail)
22.38 (yay)
28.63
24.40
Avg. 29.41
Diniz
Veteran
ottothedog, the idea of this thread is everyone that is competing do the 12 times to do an average.. And do this weekly so everyone can see their progress.. Not just do 5 times lol
ottothedog
Regular
if needed if will repost showing average from all 12 times, but from that do you have any advice for me to get faster, I really want to get sub 25 before a competition i am going to in a month, Thanks
iSpinz
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Results will be up soon.
jms_gears1
Premium Member
no one can give you advice with the info you have here.
either A) post a vid of yo udoing the solves
or B) tell us what your current breakdown is.
ottothedog
Regular
if you look higher on the page i have more info, thanks anways for attempting to give advice, please help.
Diniz
Veteran
Based on your information (30sec avg) i suggest you to keep praticing Period.
jms_gears1
Premium Member
meh thats still not enough to give you any real advice other than what diniz said.
also what do you consider advanced cross?
as for breakdowns, what are your times for:
cross-
F2L-
OLL-
PLL-
when your timing give yourself about 3 seconds for inspection for each phase other than the beginning of your solve.
cincyaviation
Veteran
thats wheat i was thinking, lol wheat
ottothedog
Regular
advanced meaning on the bottom, sometimes extended (on purpose)
cross - 3-4 sec.
f2l - 15 sec.
oll - 5 sec.
pll - 5 sec
(sorry i took so long to reply was waiting for comment and did not realize this went on to a differnt page, lol)
cross - 3-4 sec.
f2l - 15 sec.
oll - 5 sec.
pll - 5 sec
(sorry i took so long to reply was waiting for comment and did not realize this went on to a differnt page, lol)
Diniz
Veteran
Your OLL is ok for 2Look, you cant improve much there (without learning 1 look).
PLL you REALLY need to pratice fingertricks, since you just executed the PLL (3 sec inspect was given). You can easily cut 3 seconds there on most PLLs...
I myself dont do the cross on bottom, keep praticing, you will get the cross to 2-3 secs..
And for F2L, go slow and look ahead, then start to speed up when your look ahead get better.. Learn algorithms for the bad cases and learn to insert in every position etc, to avoid cube rotations.
PLL you REALLY need to pratice fingertricks, since you just executed the PLL (3 sec inspect was given). You can easily cut 3 seconds there on most PLLs...
I myself dont do the cross on bottom, keep praticing, you will get the cross to 2-3 secs..
And for F2L, go slow and look ahead, then start to speed up when your look ahead get better.. Learn algorithms for the bad cases and learn to insert in every position etc, to avoid cube rotations.
ottothedog
Regular
Thank you so much, I will try slowing down on my f2l and look ahead and will learn to perform my pll's faster (the time given was an estimate some take me 2-3 secs, some 5)
what should I get my f2l time down to?
what should I get my f2l time down to?
jms_gears1
Premium Member
1.)lolwut. Please dont tell me you honestly think you cant sub 3 a 2LOLL
you start off by doing either F(RUR'U')F' / f(RUR'U')f'/both
even with the worst possible case (both) it should still only take a second.
Then one of the seven cases that it leaves + AUF should take at MOST 2 seconds.
2.)agreed. I would start practicing your PLLs and dont time yourself on executing them. What you need to do is find a good way to execute them for you. And find algs that you like. PLL is just as much recog as it is finding algs that are good for you.
3.)Cross is extremely easy to improve on, Just start scrambling and solving crosses. NEVER take more than 8 moves, and try to do them all in 7. Keep the scrambles you use so you can do them over again and find the best solution.
4.)I cant help you much with F2L but i would say turn calmly.
and my last piece of advice is practice. And have fun.
ottothedog
Regular
Thanks for your advise also, I am currently trying to do cross in under 8 moves as you said, for the dot on oll I am trying to learn those oll cases once I am finished with pll (have to finish g perms and 2 others) and I will make sure that when I finish full pll (hopefully the end of the week) I will be able to exectute quickly as you advised
as asked before, what is good f2l time?
Thanks
as asked before, what is good f2l time?
Thanks
cincyaviation
Veteran
lolwut?
what if you get one of those few 8 move solutions and its something like
B2 L2 D F' D' B' R' B
why would you not waste a few moves and do it faster?
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cincyaviation
Veteran
1 second?
ummm, a good F2L time realistically would be about 6-8 seconds, but getting sub 10 (cross included) can easily get you sub 20
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ottothedog
Regular
Thanks, Sounds hard (you are right about the sub 20 thing with cross and f2l, thats how I got my 19.99 solve)
