Poll: Opinion on Health Care Reform

[CuBeOrDiE]

well i said my opinion. try and change it

 

[Muesli]

so? if its your fault its your problem. if its the drivers fault they should pay for it. people who work hard shouldn't pay for something that they aren't concerned in. honestly, that just takes incentive to work away from people. benjamin franklin once said something along these lines:

if you want people to get out of debt just let them fend for themselves

nowadays, its cool to have government pay for you or to get awards for participation or maybe to live on honest people's money. some people have strain from the right path. also, they want to legalise all illegs. and gay mariages too ? what's happening?!

That is primary school logic. Eye for an eye.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

no. its common sense. just wait for the future.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

so? if its your fault its your problem. if its the drivers fault they should pay for it. people who work hard shouldn't pay for something that they aren't concerned in.

I hope that the next time you're in a car crash, the EMT won't use any equipment on you unless you can pay for it with the money in your pocket. Afterall, he's spending the money of the Ambulance corp on you with no guarantee that it's gonna get back to the corp. Also, next time someone you know goes into cardiac arrest, maybe using an AED isn't the best idea until we can be sure he has the money to pay for the pads.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

 

[miniGOINGS]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

Right, and that prevents you from getting into a car crash by 100%.

 

[Edmund]

Can someone explain to me why people think that National healthcare means Communism?

Government controlled healthcare.
Communism controls everything. Including financial institutes and stuff like that.

you do realize that the government has already controlled healthcare for quite a bit of time (at least for the elderly) and they all love it.

They love it cause it's not them paying for it, it's their children's taxes. That takes enough from taxes, do we really want to have to pay extreme taxes or increase the deficit so much more? No.

If you broke your back in a car accident how much would it cost you to get treatment? What if you had to be fed through a straw for 2 months on a hospital ward?

I bet that would cost a hell of a lot more with your health insurance than a higher tax rate.

I should have the option to health care or not. It's rare that that would happen and the gov't shouldn't make me have to have insurance or use their plan. Also what if I needed instant care for something? With universal health care it's much harder to get instant care. I talked about this earlier in the thread: my dad had cancer but was treated very quickly so it wouldn't spread. I'm worried that he wouldn't have gotten such rapid care with this universal plan. My cousin in England has had oral problems for a very long time, yet she has been treated so poorly and not quickly because of this universal plan.

 

[Deleted member 2864]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

Judging only from your appearance for your videos, I don't think you're of legal age to be driving =/ How would you know you're careful.

Besides, if a drunk driver hits you on the side at 60 mph, why does it matter if you're a careful driver or not.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

Right, and that prevents you from getting into a car crash by 100%.

of course it does! but if i am in a car crash, then i hope there's a heaven

 

[Ethan Rosen]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE SCENE OF A CAR CRASH? It doesn't matter how careful you are, this happens all the time. I was on a call recently where someone was driving someone else to the hospital in an emergency situation, and on the way to the hospital they hit a car full of kids. A couple of these kids didn't have a parent with them, and likely had no money on them. Are we supposed to deny treatment because there is no 100% guarantee that this kid would be able to pay us back?

Also, you're like 12; you can't drive, so you can't even pretend to know what you're talking about.

 

[puzzlemaster]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

I suppose that all drivers who get in accidents are being careless...

 

[miniGOINGS]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

Right, and that prevents you from getting into a car crash by 100%.

of course it does! but if i am in a car crash, then i hope there's a heaven

So you're saying...wait...I have no idea what to say. No idea at all.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

i've BEEN in a car crash. and im 13, not 12

 

[Edmund]

i don't care what you hope. i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

Right, and that prevents you from getting into a car crash by 100%.

of course it does! but if i am in a car crash, then i hope there's a heaven

No it doesn't. I'm not for this health care but you're making bad points. What if someone else isn't careful? You might going fine and someone runs a red light?
Of course then the person who ran the red light should pay your hospital costs.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

indeed. if its your fault you pay for it.

 

[miniGOINGS]

i've BEEN in a car crash. and im 13, not 12

Then obviously you're not very careful. At all.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

i've BEEN in a car crash. and im 13, not 12

Doesn't answer my question. Should we have not treated the little kid in the car that got hit because there was no guarantee that whatever money in gas/equipment was used would be compensated? Also, should the person who was driving the first car have been forced to pay for the entire thing, even though he was in an emergency situation?

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

listen. im not saying we shouldn't pay for the little kid. but why ruin the whole system? just fix bits of it. the bill if 1000 pages for god's sake. come on.

edit: and so what if he was in an emergency? why should taxpayers pay for it? they weren't responsible at all! and anyway, the world's cruel. you can't please everyone. about 84% of the people are pleased with healthcare as it is. just change it! not REforem it. jeez...

 

[Deleted member 2864]

i've BEEN in a car crash. and im 13, not 12

pssht. Were you behind the wheel? If you were then you should be arrested -.-

You're 13, huh? Good job.

I'm sure not driving but being in a car crash makes you the most careful driver to live.

And to your brilliant above post: I think most bills are 1000 pages long.

and so what if he was in an emergency? why should taxpayers pay for it? they weren't responsible at all! and anyway, the world's cruel. you can't please everyone.

I NOE!!!11! WE SHULDANT PAIY 4 TEH RODES 2!!! ITZ A HARD WORLED AOT THAR AND WE SHULD BILD AOR OWN RODES!

WE SHULD ALSO STOP PAIYING 4 PUBLIC SCHOOLZ!!! EVEN IF A POOR FAMIRY WIT A CHILD WIT POTENTIAL, LETZ NOT MAEK EDUCASION POSSIBOL 4 DEM!!!

 

[Ethan Rosen]

listen. im not saying we shouldn't pay for the little kid. but why ruin the whole system? just fix bits of it. the bill if 1000 pages for god's sake. come on.

edit: and so what if he was in an emergency? why should taxpayers pay for it? they weren't responsible at all! and anyway, the world's cruel. you can't please everyone.

SO you're saying not to treat the driver/wounded passenger of the original car because it's technically their fault? This isn't sounding very Christian of you.