Poll: Opinion on Health Care Reform

[beingforitself]

Regarding passage of H.R. 4872 (Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) and H.R. 2590 (Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010) last night.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I was watching Obama yesterday. Seems good to me. I Tommy Douglas.

 

[Edmund]

I'm not digging it. My dad had cancer and with what we had in the US he was treated so quickly and luckily they were able to terminate the cancer before it big time spread but if we had a system run by the government he would not have been treated with such speed. Take my cousin in England, which has health care. She has crazy oral problems and she's had them for so long because of the poor medical system and in America she would have been treated with more speed. I just don't want America to become a place where it takes for over to fix something. I also don't like the gov't having so much power. It seems scary. It would be wonderful if everyone could be treated and all could be healthy but that's not gonna happen. They'll start selecting who is worthy of getting immediate care and it'll eventually turn into people deciding whether you live or not.
This thread will most likely turn into a fight thread but I'm just throwing in my 2 cents.

And the amount of spending, insane.

If I can just leave with a great quote on health care
"In the wild, there is no health care. In the wild health care is: ow I hurt my leg, I can't run, a lion eats. wow I'm dead. No I'm not dead, I'm the lion, you're dead!"
-Dwight K. Schrute

 

[Muesli]

I think that...

Oh wait...

 

[Parity]

Me and my mom were traveling around the state takeing votes on this from doctors.
We asked 1000 doctors if they would quit if this passed.
769 said they would quit.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

Me and my mom were traveling around the state takeing votes on this from doctors.
We asked 1000 doctors if they would quit if this passed.
769 said they would quit.

Yea, seems likely to me that they're just gonna quit their jobs over this bill.
(Note, my sarcastic reply in no way indicates my position on the bill, I just thought his statement was ridiculous)

 

[aronpm]

Of course, if I'd spent around 12 years in medical school to get a medical degree so that I could be a doctor, I would definitely quit my job because the public gets public health care.

 

[Daniel Wu]

Free market > Government control. Particularly when the government is just so inefficient anyway. I don't think they can manage this. I allow don't like how the government decided that they should just ram the bill down the throats of the House of Representatives. I don't think that the bill should be voted on unless it has been read. Most of this bill was written behind closed doors and it's just not right to have people voting on bills without knowing the contents. And if I may ask, how is increasing people covered by 32 million not going to increase the deficit. The spending is out of control. It needs to stop and it's really that simple. It is unsustainable. This is really just out of control. What it comes down to is you can't spend money that you don't have.

 

[kunz]

personally i don't mind that is passed but i don't think its the governments place to give sick people (no matter how sad there story is) our money

 

[Parity]

Me and my mom were traveling around the state takeing votes on this from doctors.
We asked 1000 doctors if they would quit if this passed.
769 said they would quit.

Yea, seems likely to me that they're just gonna quit their jobs over this bill.
(Note, my sarcastic reply in no way indicates my position on the bill, I just thought his statement was ridiculous)

I most defiently would quit as well.

 

[aronpm]

Me and my mom were traveling around the state takeing votes on this from doctors.
We asked 1000 doctors if they would quit if this passed.
769 said they would quit.

Yea, seems likely to me that they're just gonna quit their jobs over this bill.
(Note, my sarcastic reply in no way indicates my position on the bill, I just thought his statement was ridiculous)

I most defiently would quit as well.

Why would you quit? Give reasons.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

Me and my mom were traveling around the state takeing votes on this from doctors.
We asked 1000 doctors if they would quit if this passed.
769 said they would quit.

Yea, seems likely to me that they're just gonna quit their jobs over this bill.
(Note, my sarcastic reply in no way indicates my position on the bill, I just thought his statement was ridiculous)

I most defiently would quit as well.

Good thing you aren't a doctor. Luckily for me, I'm confident that my doctor, as well as 99.999% of doctors in the country, will not be quitting their jobs because of this.

 

[4Chan]

I think someone doesn't understand what the healthcare bill proposes. (x

 

[beingforitself]

Just a clarification from all the Patriots opposed to this measure:

Y'all are also in favor of the complete abolishment of Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid, right?

 

[Ethan Rosen]

Just a clarification from all the Patriots opposed to this measure:

Y'all are also in favor of the complete abolishment of Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid, right?

Over a long period of time, yes.

 

[RyanO]

I most defiently would quit as well.

Quit and do what? I'm pretty sure most doctors wouldn't be able to make more money doing something else just because of this bill. If I was considering going into the helthcare business this might effect my decision, but I don't think there will be very many doctors who actually stop being doctors because of this.

 

[Bryan]

Y'all are also in favor of the complete abolishment of Social Security

Everyone knows that Social Security is broke. Talk to anyone under 40 and they acknowledge the fact that they won't be getting anything back from it, yet have to pay into it.

Medicare and medicaid also take up large portion of the government money. Go back and look at the early estimate of how much these programs were originally expected to cost. They well exceed that, and I expect the Health Care Reform won't be anywhere near it's projected budget.

Obama talks about how they could save so much money by eliminating fraud. Fine. So just do it. Do it immediately. If there's really money there, just start saving it. Don't sit there and say, "Well, I know how we can save a bunch of money, but we won't unless I get to say how it's spent."

You think deregulating insurance and letting people buy across state lines will help? Just pass that. Don't bunch it up with other crap.

The bill doesn't do anything to save money, it just spends more and more. Costs will go up, and some insurance companies will go out of business. That's what the Democrats want, so they can sweep in and have the government control health care. At that point, the government can decide what you can and cannot do, because they're paying for your health care.

 

[Edmund]

Just a clarification from all the Patriots opposed to this measure:

Y'all are also in favor of the complete abolishment of Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid, right?

I would be for abolishing social security. I realize it couldn't be done immediately because so many people are dependent. It should be phased out gradually. The others I don't know so much about but because they're listed with social security I might be for abolishing them.

 

[Daniel Wu]

The bill doesn't do anything to save money, it just spends more and more. Costs will go up, and some insurance companies will go out of business. That's what the Democrats want, so they can sweep in and have the government control health care. At that point, the government can decide what you can and cannot do, because they're paying for your health care.

That pretty much sums it up right there.

 

[biohead]

I live in a country with Health Care. If you are sick you get treated at a public hospital, and if they take to long you go to a private one for free.
I cant for the live of me see what you have against this. I have seen what Fox News has said about "Health Care == Communism" and i'm sorry, it is insane.

But i'm not really surprised that something like that comes from a country where you sue someone because you eaten to much junk food...