Poll: Best Technique To Improve Time

[lorki3]

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No matter what method you use, it works...

I agree ''P'' word and lookahead
''P'' word is

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practise practise

 

[DavidWoner]

Other- JUST F%#$ING PRACTICE

 

[PatrickT]

I know quite a few sub-15 cubers and I must say they don't do anything particularly special. It really is just what everyone else has been saying -- look ahead and practice. Just think about the time break-down. If you want to be 14 seconds then you could do a 10 second f2l (all look-ahead) and a 4 second last layer (all practice/finger tricks).

Other things that they do are algorithms from different angles instead of AUFing or rotating the cube. For the purposes of your poll I would probably vote this, since it applies to F2L as well as last layer. But I don't know why you consider this an advanced technique whereas look ahead/practice are "not."

I know a couple of them tried COLL but didn't think it's worth it. There are like two people who do MGLS which looks pretty good, and a couple of cases are worth learning anyway. I don't know any sub-15ers who do VHF2L, but I know someone sub-20 who does it. It's good to be able to do some LL edge control, but VHF2L is unnecessary.

I don't personally know any color neutral people. I think it's worth it to be white/yellow color neutral or whatever color is opposite your normal cross, as it's basically the same and I've seen a few sub-15 people do that. But it's definitely not necessary for sub-15.

Wow, your fingertricks must own = o My LL is usually about 8 to 9 seconds with a 12 - 13 seconds F2L

I missed a bunch of techniques (empty slot, X-cross, Solving from different angles), Probably should have put some thought into this poll = P

I put minimizing cube rotations as an advanced technique because it is not one of the main things they tell you to work on after a cfop tutorial. It's mostly practice and to look ahead.

The 4 second LL is on the low end of the range for me. More reasonable is 9 second F2L and 5 second last layer. 6 second last layer is on the slow end. I'm pretty sure the former WR holder had a consistent 3 second last layer.

If you have a 9 second last layer you should probably learn better ways to do your algs, or just practice a lot more.

 

[Alex DiTuro]

I know quite a few sub-15 cubers and I must say they don't do anything particularly special. It really is just what everyone else has been saying -- look ahead and practice. Just think about the time break-down. If you want to be 14 seconds then you could do a 10 second f2l (all look-ahead) and a 4 second last layer (all practice/finger tricks).

Other things that they do are algorithms from different angles instead of AUFing or rotating the cube. For the purposes of your poll I would probably vote this, since it applies to F2L as well as last layer. But I don't know why you consider this an advanced technique whereas look ahead/practice are "not."

I know a couple of them tried COLL but didn't think it's worth it. There are like two people who do MGLS which looks pretty good, and a couple of cases are worth learning anyway. I don't know any sub-15ers who do VHF2L, but I know someone sub-20 who does it. It's good to be able to do some LL edge control, but VHF2L is unnecessary.

I don't personally know any color neutral people. I think it's worth it to be white/yellow color neutral or whatever color is opposite your normal cross, as it's basically the same and I've seen a few sub-15 people do that. But it's definitely not necessary for sub-15.

Wow, your fingertricks must own = o My LL is usually about 8 to 9 seconds with a 12 - 13 seconds F2L

I missed a bunch of techniques (empty slot, X-cross, Solving from different angles), Probably should have put some thought into this poll = P

I put minimizing cube rotations as an advanced technique because it is not one of the main things they tell you to work on after a cfop tutorial. It's mostly practice and to look ahead.

The 4 second LL is on the low end of the range for me. More reasonable is 9 second F2L and 5 second last layer. 6 second last layer is on the slow end. I'm pretty sure the former WR holder had a consistent 3 second last layer.

If you have a 9 second last layer you should probably learn better ways to do your algs, or just practice a lot more.

We talkin' bout PRACTICE!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI LOL

I should probably learn better algs for my PLL and get a better cube... my y perm is usually around 3.5 seconds no lie, I'm pretty sure its my cube.....

 

[ElderKingpin]

is it your cube? is it really?
when did you last lube it
what type is it o.O

 

[Dene]

This is meant for someone who can solve consistantly under 15s (elite cubers) and since practice isn't really an issue for them and their look-ahead is obviously good

Are you so sure about that?

 

[Alex DiTuro]

This is meant for someone who can solve consistantly under 15s (elite cubers) and since practice isn't really an issue for them and their look-ahead is obviously good

Are you so sure about that?

I was.......

is it your cube? is it really?
when did you last lube it
what type is it o.O

Its a storebought that I bought 5 days ago.. I dremeled it down and CRCed it but it clicks and locks up a lot o.o

 

[Daniel Wu]

This is meant for someone who can solve consistantly under 15s (elite cubers) and since practice isn't really an issue for them and their look-ahead is obviously good

Are you so sure about that?

I was.......

According to my most recent 500/500 average from CCT, I average 15.70 and my look ahead could be a lot better. I need much, much more time to practice.

 

[ElderKingpin]

Its a storebought that I bought 5 days ago.. I dremeled it down and CRCed it but it clicks and locks up a lot o.o

Why do you have a storebought at sub-20 O.O

 

[gboh19]

If it is practise; then .... Slow solves will do.

Slow Solves then improve look ahead along with it. After that just keep on practising and gradually turn faster.

 

[qqwref]

Other: turn faster and learn to lookahead while doing so.

You can get well under 10 seconds with standard, pure Fridrich.

 

[Dene]

This is meant for someone who can solve consistantly under 15s (elite cubers) and since practice isn't really an issue for them and their look-ahead is obviously good

Are you so sure about that?

I was.......

Just so you know, I did average sub15 once upon a time, and my lookahead is still terrible.

 

[eastamazonantidote]

COLL and VHF2L are nice (especially the skips!) but unneeded. You just need to get fast look ahead, better LL case recognition (PLL rec by 2 faces), and fewer cube rotations (actually makes a huge difference). However, I'm at 25 seconds, so what do I know?

 

[josmil1]

not to be rude or anything but u answered your own question. But the "p" word is also another answer

 

[cooldayr]

silicon OIL
beats any lube i have ever tried by far
brought my 5x5 time from 5 min avg to 4:30 avg
no lock ups
perfectly smooth

 

[shelley]

I meant for someone who can solve consistantly under 15s (elite cubers) and since practice isn't really an issue for them and their look-ahead is obviously good I wanted to know what they think is the best advanced technique (look-ahead and practice aren't advanced techniques)

How would you know? Have you been there? And you should know that practice is an issue for anyone. You can't get magically faster without practice, even if you do learn advanced techniques.

There are definitely advanced techniques to look into once you get to around 15 seconds, e.g. COLL, VHF2L, multislotting, etc. But when you compare me (~16 seconds average) and someone who averages 12-13, the difference has less to do with those advanced techniques than sheer lookahead and finger speed.

 

[Olivér Perge]

I meant for someone who can solve consistantly under 15s (elite cubers) and since practice isn't really an issue for them and their look-ahead is obviously good I wanted to know what they think is the best advanced technique (look-ahead and practice aren't advanced techniques)

How would you know? Have you been there? And you should know that practice is an issue for anyone. You can't get magically faster without practice, even if you do learn advanced techniques.

There are definitely advanced techniques to look into once you get to around 15 seconds, e.g. COLL, VHF2L, multislotting, etc. But when you compare me (~16 seconds average) and someone who averages 12-13, the difference has less to do with those advanced techniques than sheer lookahead and finger speed.

What Shelley said.

And btw, in my opinion sub15 is far from elite.

Suddenly everyone is rushing into these topics and needs a magical method for improving instead of sitting down and practicing a lot...

 

[DavidSanders]

Take ADD stimulant medication.

 

[Alex DiTuro]

Its a storebought that I bought 5 days ago.. I dremeled it down and CRCed it but it clicks and locks up a lot o.o

Why do you have a storebought at sub-20 O.O

I have a AI, but I really don't like it. It's the tensions I'm sure of it. I reset them, and it worked great, but its all screwed up again. I should be getting a yong jun 3x3 from popbuying as well as a yj 4x4, a qj mini, and a qj pyraminx. I just came back from a long break from cubing, so I gave away a lot of my cubes = P

How would you know? Have you been there? And you should know that practice is an issue for anyone. You can't get magically faster without practice, even if you do learn advanced techniques.

There are definitely advanced techniques to look into once you get to around 15 seconds, e.g. COLL, VHF2L, multislotting, etc. But when you compare me (~16 seconds average) and someone who averages 12-13, the difference has less to do with those advanced techniques than sheer lookahead and finger speed.

Jeez, you don't have be so mean about it. Thank you for the advice, though.

 

[fundash]

PRACTICE