# One-Answer Pyraminx Question Thread

#### CodingCuber

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So with practice only recognition gets fast I guess. Sub-6 is possible with intuitive L4E right?
Sub 6 is possible with LBL too. So yes. I am sub 7 with a mix of LBL and a bit of L4E for reference.

#### Prabal Baishya

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Sub 6 is possible with LBL too. So yes. I am sub 7 with a mix of LBL and a bit of L4E for reference.
Great I was averaging low 9secs with LBL and couldn't get any faster. Hopefully with L4E I will be sub-6

#### TipsterTrickster

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Sub 6 with l4e isn’t hard, I am low 3 with l4e and some people are low 2 with it also

#### Bh13

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Any advice on a good advanced method to start learning after keyhole? It seems like L4E would be a fairly easy transition, as well as Oka. Any advice on learning L4E intuitively? For 1-flip, do you intuitively solve the flipped edge and centers in one algorithm?

#### Kaneki Uchiha

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I am sub 12 on pyra with lbl should I learn keyhole/l4e if so should I learn algs or should I learn it intuitively

#### CodingCuber

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I am sub 12 on pyra with lbl should I learn keyhole/l4e if so should I learn algs or should I learn it intuitively
You cha if you want. And if so, learn it intuitively, I think that is the best way to go. Btw, if learning l4e, don’t worry about using it all the time. I’m sub 7 and I know the l3e cases and I just do lbl unless i get an l3e case. Up to you, though.

#### Sub1Hour

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I am sub 12 on pyra with lbl should I learn keyhole/l4e if so should I learn algs or should I learn it intuitively
Just pick a method they are all good. L4E is a good V first method, Oka is a good top first method.