OLL+PLL skips

[ThePizzaGuy92]

has anybody ever gotten one? I've gotten three. i might be the unofficial world record holder for most OLL PLL skips. haha. one on Gabbasoft, one if practice [9.00 seconds], and one in front of a friend [fellow cuber] who was more amazed than me [12.55 seconds].

 

[FU]

Gotten none, but then again i haven't been cubing for very long. Were those LL skips from computer generated scrambles?

 

[Jason Baum]

I've had 11 LL skips. 8 of those came after doing ZBF2L, which increases the odds dramatically (1/1944).

edit: Just got another one (using ZBF2L). Make that 12!

 

[hdskull]

2, both untimed,

 

[Lofty]

I don't know the exact number but I have had loads most of them not timed. I would say around 10.

 

[Inusagi]

I have got 1, but that is the only one I get ever I guess

 

[KConny]

Lofty: 10? Either you use ZBF2L or solved the cube 155 520 times. Thats about 15 a day since Erno invented the cube.

I've gotten one, on a crappy warmup solve some weeks ago. 14.45 was the time. A couple days before that I saw my friend get one on his like 40th solve.

 

[Lofty]

I use VHF2L a lot, so same odds. 10 may be a bit of an exaggeration but it is more than 5.

 

[hdskull]

Lofty: 10? Either you use ZBF2L or solved the cube 155 520 times. Thats about 15 a day since Erno invented the cube.

I've gotten one, on a crappy warmup solve some weeks ago. 14.45 was the time. A couple days before that I saw my friend get one on his like 40th solve.

Maybe it wasn't scrambled too good.

 

[masterofthebass]

a LL skip really has nothing to do with an easy scramble. If you use the regular method, the odds of a LL skip are the same, no matter what the scramble.

 

[deathbypapercutz]

Wow, I haven't gotten any.

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

I've had one, untimed solve, though. If you count using a J perm for the 4th F2L slot because the rest of the cube was oriented + permuted, then I've had 2.

 

[KConny]

Master: Try scramble: R2. And if by easy scramble you mean short, then there will be a difference.

 

[CorwinShiu]

Is it me or is the amount of last layer skips incredibly high compared to its low probability. It seems almost everyone has at least one. Oh well, maybe in the future for me.

 

[hdskull]

I meant easy, as in not scrambled well, I've solved a cube in 4 seconds because I got an X3 cross and a LL skip.

 

[Ron]

I had 2 LL skips on 4x4.

 

[cmhardw]

Is it me or is the amount of last layer skips incredibly high compared to its low probability. It seems almost everyone has at least one. Oh well, maybe in the future for me.

I think most people solve more often than they think they do. If you've done 20,000 solves in your lifetime of cubing and you've had 2 LL skips the chances of that are

(20000 C 2)*(1/15552)^2*(15551/15552)^19998 = 22%

22% sounds reasonable to me.

Chris

 

[dRaGoN]

22% chance of LL skip? o.O *confused* Unless you meant 22% chance of 2 LL skips out of 20k. ._.
Anyway, I've had about 5 oll/pll skips in the 3 months I've been cubing.

 

[Johannes91]

Unless you meant 22% chance of 2 LL skips out of 20k.

Yes, that's what he said.

 

[Kenneth]

I remember a LL-skip from 1982, was 14 seconds, probably my fastes solve ever where the F2L was normal

Nowdays I have a few a little now and then because of VH/ZB-F2L.