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[Kattenvriendin]

I guess it'll only be interesting to me when I start doing fewest moves. Otherwise it is more: what is the best perm that works for me in that case.


Fewest moves wouldn't work for me.. with my memory lol nah it is fun to do, but I'll stick with what I know and be glad I am not forgetting WHAT I know

 

[MarcelP]

Wait... how do you not know how to do them on a solved cube but you can solve them? Maybe I do not understand you correctly.

I have a big problem with doing algs slow or on solved cubes. In a solve I have no problems with any pll, I can all PLLs reconize from two sides and execute immediatly. So, when I perform a T perm on a solved cube, it leaves a T perm to solve, but in stead I have to do an F-perm. My brain can NOT cope with that. LOL My brain does not take any part in doing last layer. So it is pure mussle memory (yeah I know, that comes from the brain too ) So if I start to practice doing a drill performing a F-perm on a T-perm Last Layer, I might start doing that in true solves... I will have to try a while with one or two sets of three PLL's to see if it will work for me.

while lying in bed in the dark (because it was time to sleep but I was not ready to put my cube down yet!)

LOL!!!

 

[MarcelP]

Fewest moves wouldn't work for me.. with my memory lol nah it is fun to do

It will be great to know then that for doing FMC you do not have to know any algoritm. You just need to be good at block building, and inserts (commutators).

 

[mark49152]

I just tried this too, but when I do a T-perm followed by a F-perm I'll have to do a Aa-perm to solve the cube.
So my first tripplett is T - F - Aa with a U2 before the T and Aa perm.

That's what my AUF rambling was about. You need to AUF between the first and second in order to get the correct third case. For T-F-H put the headlights on the side you'd usually put the bar, before doing F. That AUF becomes muscle memory too, with practice.

Like sneakly, I practice in the dark, or under the desk while staring at the PC. That's one of the reasons I like the cube to return to solved, otherwise I can't tell whether I screwed up. I can see Marcel's problem though. I can switch off recognition when practicing pure execution so it doesn't bother me doing a T perm on a non-T perm case (especially if I'm not looking at the cube )

 

[sneaklyfox]

I have a big problem with doing algs slow or on solved cubes. In a solve I have no problems with any pll, I can all PLLs reconize from two sides and execute immediatly. So, when I perform a T perm on a solved cube, it leaves a T perm to solve, but in stead I have to do an F-perm. My brain can NOT cope with that. LOL My brain does not take any part in doing last layer. So it is pure mussle memory (yeah I know, that comes from the brain too ) So if I start to practice doing a drill performing a F-perm on a T-perm Last Layer, I might start doing that in true solves... I will have to try a while with one or two sets of three PLL's to see if it will work for me.

Are you able to perform an F-perm on a solved cube? If you are, you should be able to perform an F-perm when it shows T-perm because when doing PLL time attacks, I don't really look at the cube to try and recognize anything. Just keep your eyes closed the whole time and perform a T-perm followed by an F-perm. It shouldn't mess up your recognition. That's really good that you can recognize all PLLs from only two sides. There are a bunch that I still need to peek at 3 sides for (or I look when I'm doing U/U' moves to get it to the right position to start the execution)... I haven't really bothered to practice 2-sided recognition yet.

 

[SpeedSolve]

Wow Marcel!!! You have improved so much! I'm so proud!

While you, sneakly, and katten are improving, I haven't even touched a cube in nearly 5 months. This summer, I'll get back into it.

Congrats to all of you on your new records/pbs!

 

[Kattenvriendin]

Thanks!

 

[MarcelP]

Wow Marcel!!! You have improved so much! I'm so proud!

While you, sneakly, and katten are improving, I haven't even touched a cube in nearly 5 months. This summer, I'll get back into it.

Congrats to all of you on your new records/pbs!

Geez, thanks for the kind words. I feel like I have not improved a bit at all. I am uploading an Ao12 that has a nice average though..

 

[MarcelP]

I filmed a few Ao12's today. This is the best one.

A few +2 in there because I did not AUF correct but I don't mind

Spoiler

Rubik's cube
16-mei-2013 16:02:53 - 16:12:26

Mean: 26.76
Average: 26.53
Best time: 20.88
Median: 26.28
Worst time: 34.93
Standard deviation: 3.77

Best average of 5: 24.50
1-5 - 26.12 24.63 (28.96) (22.25) 22.76

Best average of 12: 26.53
1-12 - 26.12 24.63 28.96 22.25 22.76 26.43 30.01 28.27 26.05 (20.88) 29.85 (34.93)

1. 26.12 R2 L2 D2 R2 L2 D' F2 U' B2 U R' B' D2 U2 F' L U B D2 R2 U'
2. 24.63 B2 D2 R2 B2 U L2 U' L2 B2 F2 U2 B' U2 R L2 B D2 L2 B U' R' D'
3. 28.96 L2 F2 D' F2 U F2 U' B2 F2 D2 B2 L' D B F2 D' R F' D R L
4. 22.25 D' R2 D F2 D U2 B2 F2 R2 F2 U' R' U F2 R' F2 R B U2 L' D B
5. 22.76 D L2 D2 F2 R2 D L2 D' B2 F2 L' D' B L D2 F' R' F' R' U'
6. 26.43 R2 U' R2 D2 R2 F2 R2 D' B2 R2 F' D2 L2 U2 L' F' U R U2 L2 D'
7. 30.01 R2 D' B2 R2 U' R2 L2 U' R2 D' L2 B D' L' U2 B2 U2 F R' B2 F' R'
8. 28.27 B2 D B2 F2 R2 D U R2 F2 U2 L' D B' L' U R B2 F L2 D' U2
9. 26.05 B2 U B2 L2 U R2 U' R2 D' L2 F' L U2 R D' B F' D' U' R'
10. 20.88 L2 U R2 D2 F2 D2 F2 U R2 U2 B R' U' L B D' F R U2 B' D U
11. 29.85 D B2 U' F2 D2 R2 F2 U' B2 F2 U' R B' U' B U2 B' L2 D F2 L
12. 34.93 U' L2 D' R2 D' B2 R2 B2 F2 D' B2 L B' U R2 D F R F' D'

I am quite happy with this. I feel a little faster than normal.

[video=youtube_share;Csf2JJDIuxA]http://youtu.be/Csf2JJDIuxA[/video]

 

[Schmidt]

If you can't solve a f perm on a t perm, you should try to take the test where it says "yellow" on the screen but the letters are blue and you have to say the color of the letters instead of reading the word yellow. You might get a laugh out of it. It is a little easier( I think ) for someone who does not speak English native.

 

[moralsh]

Re: Hi, Marcel from Holland here

To automatize your pll you can try to do them with your eyes closed, I sometimes try to 7-look my solves, plan cross, solve cross with eyes closed, plan first pair, solve it with eyes closed, and so on. It helps me a lot.

 

[Lchu613]

That seems like a cool idea, I think it would be good for F2L recognition to speed up look-ahead.
Also, you can just study the PLL cases that look alike to find differences and things to look for.
I can recognize most PLL cases from any 2 faces (not including U and D faces obviously)

 

[Kattenvriendin]

AACHOOMpmboxfull lol

 

[Lchu613]

Nice bump

 

[Kattenvriendin]

It's either that or wait for four days till he FINALLY realizes he is not getting anything new lol

 

[littlewing1208]

Finally got my milky Zhanchi from zcube.cn . Unfortunately, one of the edges was poorly molded (basically a V missing from the edge). They are going to send me a new edge piece, but I assume it will take a month last it did with the cube. It's still usable in the interim though.

 

[Kattenvriendin]

Ahhh and? Like it? Hate it?

 

[littlewing1208]

Ahhh and? Like it? Hate it?

It feels super fast, but has a slight catch here and there relative to my well broken in Zhanchi. I'm sure it'll smooth out with some time.

 

[MarcelP]

To automatize your pll you can try to do them with your eyes closed, I sometimes try to 7-look my solves, plan cross, solve cross with eyes closed, plan first pair, solve it with eyes closed, and so on. It helps me a lot.

yeah, I think I could do a lot better doing actual PLL training. The 7 look solves are great. I have been doing them a lot in train.

I can recognize most PLL cases from any 2 faces..

I have been working on that a lot lately. It really works for me. But I do make more mistakes than earlier. I am hoping that will go away as I continue to PLL's after looking only looking at two faces.

Finally got my milky Zhanchi from zcube.cn .

After getting a lot of pops on my new Fangshi today I did tension it a little more. Resulting in worse times. So I have put the cube away and leave it there for at least two weeks so that for upcomming competition I only use my Milky zhanchi!

 

[Lchu613]

I thought the Fangshi was unpoppable.....
Bleh