Older cubers discussions

Seems to be a standard issue with us older folk of trying to find time within life to cube, never mind learning new things. I constantly try to learning something new, but find I have to continuously relearn stuff that I don't practice much. I've forgotten how to do SQ-1 so mine remains scrambled. I suppose I could sit with a guide for 10 minutes and solve it so that at least it is in a solved state like the rest of my cubes :)
I have already discussed in this forum about my OCD to have everything solved but, in a case like this, I would be just fine with having it in cube shape so that I can put it back in the box :) I'm glad mine is solved, not sure when or even if I'll ever take it out of the box again.
 
There's no way I could keep practicing many different events at a regular basis. I tend to always focus on one thing at a time. Now when I got excited about bld again, ZZ practice has dropped to zero. Eventually I'm likely to get more excited about something else, then I will take a break from bld.

But at least bld is improving. :) 2:15 (1:00 memo). This is already very close to my old pb. Scramble had 3 corner cycles, 5 edge cycles and parity, so there are still easier scrambles to come.
 
I agree until I'm truly sub 20 nothing else is getting much attention. And even then maybe I'll want to push further. So for now I'll do 100 or 200 3x3, then maybe 4 4x4 solves, 1 5x5 and 20 2x2. :)
In my case it was the other way around. It was the lack of progress on 3x3 which pushed me to try other events so that I could start to claim PBs again, which is motivating. I really can't remember when I beat a 3x3 PB for the last time but 4x4 or 5x5 I am still improving. Maybe if I had devoted all that effort to 3x3 I would be a second faster by now, maybe even two, I'm not sure but I can say that I'm more than 1min 30sec faster at 4x4 than last year and infinitely faster at 5x5 :p (I had never timed a 5x5 solve until January this year and it was like 9 minutes).
 
I've never tried it yet. You can't touch the official cube but can with with another one, correct? I'm assuming you know the scramble.
So, here's how it goes: everyone sits down at a table. Each person can bring up to 3 of their own cubes. Everyone gets a piece of blank paper and a pen (or you bring your own pen).

Everyone is also given a piece of paper, face-down, with a scramble written (and drawn) on it. When the time starts, everyone turns their paper over (like a school exam) and starts. You can do whatever you want (within reason!) during the hour, but at the end of the hour you are expected to hand in a piece of paper with a solution written down which solves the cube for the scramble you were given.

Obviously, you start by scrambling one (or all) of your cubes, and then you get on with solving it, writing down your solution as you go, on the scrap paper. Typically you try out a number of possible approaches before finding one you like, which you polish off, check carefully (by trying it on the scrambled cube) and then write down to submit as your solution.

You have to use the right notation (e.g., Rw, not r). You can write down rotations (x, y, z, x', y', z', x2, y2, z2) but they don't count as moves. It's an extremely good idea to learn to do the solving without rotations, though, as it is really easy to make a mistake if you use rotations in your solve. M moves count as 2 (and also E and S, of course), but it's better to avoid them altogether and use, for example R L' instead (this is because it can be helpful in finding cancellations -- e.g., maybe you do an alg that ends with M, and is then followed by another algorithm that starts with R'. That R' cancels with the R and you're left with two fewer moves.

There are a few other nuances -- e.g., you're allowed to put little stickers on your cube(s) during the solve, to help with inserting commutators, and your solution has to be 70 moves or fewer -- but otherwise it's pretty straightforward, and a lot of fun!

If you want to get serious with FMC, this guide is awesome and tells you absolutely everything you need to know, including the most advanced stuff (e.g., NISS).
 
In my case it was the other way around. It was the lack of progress on 3x3 which pushed me to try other events .
Same here. I hit a long plateau with 3x3 at about 17-18 seconds and got bored of endless practice with no improvement. So I got into other events. It's now more than a year since I practised 3x3 properly, more than just idle untimed solves or competition warm ups. Actually my 3x3 times have not got much worse in that time.
 
I've been away on holiday/vacation for a week and just catching up on this thread. Lack of any recent practice means I will probably mess up at the comp tomorrow, but 3x3 and 5x5 aren't until Sunday and those events I should be able to get some practice in for and get at least one PB there. Look forward to seeing you there, @newtonbase and @mark49152.

@newtonbase, I will also be doing FMC for the first time tomorrow and just using crude CFOP. Aiming for something sub-55 if I can. Would be happy enough with that.

@teacher77, welcome to the thread. Plenty of good info here. You will be able to pick up much. I watched your sample solve and agree that gaining confidence in solving the cross at the bottom will help your solve times. You might just want to work on the cross then rescramble before F2L to get direct experience in it. Good luck with your progress.

@Selkie, congrats on the weight loss fella. I was once 4 stone (non-UK this is 56lbs) heavier than I am now and you can probably tell from my WCA profile pic that I enjoy the outdoors life a lot these days! :)

Cheers all.
 
I've been away on holiday/vacation for a week and just catching up on this thread. Lack of any recent practice means I will probably mess up at the comp tomorrow, but 3x3 and 5x5 aren't until Sunday and those events I should be able to get some practice in for and get at least one PB there. Look forward to seeing you there, @newtonbase and @mark49152.

@newtonbase, I will also be doing FMC for the first time tomorrow and just using crude CFOP. Aiming for something sub-55 if I can. Would be happy enough with that.

@teacher77, welcome to the thread. Plenty of good info here. You will be able to pick up much. I watched your sample solve and agree that gaining confidence in solving the cross at the bottom will help your solve times. You might just want to work on the cross then rescramble before F2L to get direct experience in it. Good luck with your progress.

@Selkie, congrats on the weight loss fella. I was once 4 stone (non-UK this is 56lbs) heavier than I am now and you can probably tell from my WCA profile pic that I enjoy the outdoors life a lot these days! :)

Cheers all.
Looking forward to seeing everyone too. Given that it's 3am and I'm dealing with my son (he'll sleep through one day I'm sure) it's unlikely I'll be there in time for FMC. Current target is 10am.

I'm not expecting any decent results either. Practice has been awful. I DNF'd every 3BLD yesterday but if I can scrape one PB somewhere I'll be happy.

I can't imagine you 4 stone heavier @Shaky Hands
 
I got my first rubik's cube in 1981 before it was even released in North America when my dad brought one home from Hungary. He later brought me 'firsts' of every cube made in the early 80's. Although I was extremely young (6yrs old in '81), I solved every cube he brought me, without instructions or books as none were initially available-- EXCEPT square-1. Square-1 came out much later, so I should have been a lot 'smarter' by then. I quickly got it fully solved minus two swapped edges and never got past that. I probably could have but the required effort was huge. Megaminx and 4x4 had presented their own problems (self-generating algs for megaminx tripod was really time consuming but you had the HUGE advantage that you could develop the algorithms on the other side of the cube that was already solved, whereas Square-1 did not have this advantage), and the 4x4 parity problem confused me to no end and sometimes to resolve 4x4 parity I would actually re-scramble the whole cube and solve it again. I could only get PB's on 4x4 if I got a lucky solve with no parity, and the original Rubik's Revenge puzzle (the original 4x4) was a nightmare to turn. Anyway I just thought it was interesting to share that in my opinion, for a person given all these cubes with no internet, and no books, and no help, I feel strongly that Square-1 is the most difficult to solve.

Eric Fattah
BC, Canada
 
Congrats to everyone at the competition! Impressive results!

I watched Maskow's 41/41 WR video (insane!) and noticed all his cubes are oriented in his solving direction, green top, red front, at the start when he takes the covers off. In some other official mbld videos this doesn't appear to be the case. Can you request the cubes in a given orientation or should they be random?

Yesterday I went ahead and ordered 6 more Yuxin Fire cubes. In the last week I've found I really enjoy that cube for bld. It's not too fast, though fast enough, and very controllable. Much better for the purpose than any other <5$ cube I've tried. Once those arrive, I'll have 8 of them. I'll make this my target for this fall, get an 8/8 success, then I might buy more. :) Right now my pb is 3/3, also a couple of 3/4 attempts with only one mistake. 4 cube attempts currently take me about 25 minutes. Getting up to 8 with a decent amount of practice should be doable.
 
That's a great single! Congratulations! I will have to practice OH seriously again but I don't think I can get to those times with current move count. I will have to either learn 1L OLL, COLL or change to Roux. [emoji2]

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Or ZZ ;)

ZZ actually has the simplest LL in many ways. I think it is 7 OLL, and 21 PLL? The PLL is what you already know... OLL is the OLL from two look just the corners cases. :)

Alas, EOLine is still painful... but ya know... Try it, you might like it :). First one's free.

-Ira
 
Congrats to everyone at the competition! Impressive results!

I watched Maskow's 41/41 WR video (insane!) and noticed all his cubes are oriented in his solving direction, green top, red front, at the start when he takes the covers off. In some other official mbld videos this doesn't appear to be the case. Can you request the cubes in a given orientation or should they be random.
No it should be random and he was warned over this - there's an incident report on the WCA site.

Getting up to 8 with a decent amount of practice should be doable.
Yes I agree. It's just a question of solid memo and lots of reviews, and careful execution. Go for it!

Thanks for the kind congrats. I had four goals this comp and made three of them. 5BLD success, sub-1 and sub-2 singles in 4x4 and 5x5 respectively, and 8/8 multi. Ironically the 8/8 was the one I was most confident about :).

Edit: Oh and 3BLD PB so 4/5 goals met.
 
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You guys are faster than I remember... Maybe after these years of not practising I should start again :p

And I never got the hang of blindfold... Maybe it would be a cool party trick to have.
 
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