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[muchacho]

Kill me now, it takes me 15 seconds to build them.

 

[mafergut]

Very nice PB, Andy @Shaky Hands !!! It was not a lucky solve at all. So imagine what time could you get with a somewhat lucky PLL skip Also very nice improvement of almost a second over your previous PB. That shows a lot of potential!

By the way I just posted a 4x4 Mo3 in the solve critique thread, here. If anyone wants to give advice it will be more than welcome.

 

[CLL Smooth]

I can do f2b in 10 seconds but cmll and lse are the worst part of my solves.

10 sec for F2B seems pretty decent. qqtimer has a CMLL+L6E scrambler under 3x3 subsets. I believe most other timers have this as well. I remember seeing L10P (last 10 pieces) on one. These can be really helpful tools.

 

[muchacho]

At least on cstimer too.

 

[h2f]

10 sec for F2B seems pretty decent. qqtimer has a CMLL+L6E scrambler under 3x3 subsets. I believe most other timers have this as well. I remember seeing L10P (last 10 pieces) on one. These can be really helpful tools.

Yes, cstimer has as well. I should try.

 

[Chree]

And now I wanna practice Roux for some reason. Thanks guys.

Also, I'm gonna get back into BLD. Comp PB is 9:22 and after comp yesterday I know I can improve. Did almost zero practice for it, and of course walked away with 3 DNF's... but still:

1st Attempt: Realized I missed a Corner after 5 minutes of memo... gave up in favor of a fresh start.
2nd Attempt: Much nicer. Image for Corners was "Optimus Prime reading a Magazine on a Skateboard". Off by 2 edges and 2 corners after 5:30ish.
3rd Attempt: Couldn't get a good image for corners so went full audio. Fixed an error successfully, but forgot a twisted corner. 6:30ish.

 

[newtonbase]

And now I wanna practice Roux for some reason. Thanks guys.

Also, I'm gonna get back into BLD. Comp PB is 9:22 and after comp yesterday I know I can improve. Did almost zero practice for it, and of course walked away with 3 DNF's... but still:

1st Attempt: Realized I missed a Corner after 5 minutes of memo... gave up in favor of a fresh start.
2nd Attempt: Much nicer. Image for Corners was "Optimus Prime reading a Magazine on a Skateboard". Off by 2 edges and 2 corners after 5:30ish.
3rd Attempt: Couldn't get a good image for corners so went full audio. Fixed an error successfully, but forgot a twisted corner. 6:30ish.

How much time do they give you in total? It's usually 10 mins here. Well done on fixing the error. It's always good to be able to do it.
That's a great corner memo.

 

[Jason Green]

So I wanted to get a sub20 ao5 on cam. It was kind of funny because I did some cubing out front yesterday, it was nice out and I did not want to be inside but wanted to practice. After some warm up I turned on the camera, and my first 5 solves I got it! Talk about luck.

Next I want to shoot for a nicer single on cam, the cam is a good motivator for me. I guess I need to get a sub 16.

Sorry the quality is not real high, I was streaming on FB and it does not let me save HD for some reason.

 

[newtonbase]

So I wanted to get a sub20 ao5 on cam. It was kind of funny because I did some cubing out front yesterday, it was nice out and I did not want to be inside but wanted to practice. After some warm up I turned on the camera, and my first 5 solves I got it! Talk about luck.

Next I want to shoot for a nicer single on cam, the cam is a good motivator for me. I guess I need to get a sub 16.

Sorry the quality is not real high, I was streaming on FB and it does not let me save HD for some reason.

I do like watching your solves. That's how I think I'm solving but my pauses turn out to be much longer when I look back which is why you are so much faster. We also do the same roll of the cube to find the PLL. Your timer stops are pretty brutal!

 

[CLL Smooth]

We also do the same roll of the cube to find the PLL

I do this also. I like to call it 4-sided PLL recognition.

 

[Jason Green]

I do like watching your solves. That's how I think I'm solving but my pauses turn out to be much longer when I look back which is why you are so much faster. We also do the same roll of the cube to find the PLL. Your timer stops are pretty brutal!

Thanks! Yeah my pauses are longer than they feel still. I guess that's normal. I'll take brutal as a compliment.

Edit: I think the stopping is especially dramatic given the flimsy card table I was shaking so badly. Also, I seem to use my left thumb more than fingers which is weird.

 

[Isaac Lai]

By the way I just posted a 4x4 Mo3 in the solve critique thread, here. If anyone wants to give advice it will be more than welcome.

First things first, your first two centres are pretty good, though one thing you'd want to try to do is look for cross pieces while doing your second centre. This may not always be possible, but it does help to be able to do it.
Next, you should probably try solving your cross edges on the left (including the last one). It will allow for easier transition into the last four centres, and it is sometimes also easier to see where all the cross pieces are.
For your last four centres, you should work on building them more efficiently. Watch some example solves or experiment with slow turning and different methods of building them. For example, it is usually more efficient to build two pairs of adjacent centres of the same colour and then form one centre, as opposed to solving centre piece by centre piece.
As mentioned before, you should try to solve your last cross edge with cross on left. This is usually better than rotating first.
For edge pairing, you need to work on lookahead. Every time you insert an edge, ask yourself: which edge should I look for next? Then, it would be possible to do edge pairing with minimal pauses. Also, you should try to insert your edges with combinations of RU and FR to minimise rotations.
There's not much to say about 3x3 stage, but here's a bonus trick: for the last F2L pair on the third solve, you could have inserted it with R' U2 R2 U R2 U R.

 

[h2f]

@Jason Green nice ao5.

Edit:

I've finished series of 100 3bld solves. It took me a week or so - I did sometimes no solves but sometimes around 30. Acc is 42% but I treat it like a pracitce and it means I was training and sometimes I got 10 DNFs in a row.

Few statistics:

single
best: 54.04
worst: 2:15.31

mean of 3
current: DNF (σ = 42.13)
best: 1:11.11 (σ = 15.88)

avg of 5
current: DNF (σ = 58.19)
best: 1:17.13 (σ = 5.62)

avg of 12
current: DNF (σ = 48.17)
best: 1:29.18 (σ = 12.78)


Mean: 1:30.03

 

[Logiqx]

Definatly block building. I want to be able to solve like Phil Yu. If I get the hang of it I will learn the CMLL to become faster at last layer (CMLL leaves the easiest and fastest PLLs for me).

COLL is the new cool in the crusty club.

 

[h2f]

COLL is the new cool in the crusty club.

Definietly. It's very usefull in big cubes

 

[mafergut]

Definietly. It's very usefull in big cubes

I will have to learn it, then. Probably also quite useful for OH in combination with some EO.

 

[muchacho]

I guess in big cubes and OH the algs used for EPLL are [R,U] and not [M,U], right? Maybe [M, U] is faster in 4x4?

 

[mafergut]

I guess in big cubes and OH the algs used for EPLL are [R,U] and not [M,U], right? Maybe [M, U] is faster in 4x4?

I use [R, U] algs in any case for Us and Z, even though I also learned [M, U] ones for y2 orientation of Us but I rarely use them. The only [M, U] I use in 3x3 is H perm and, for this I also learned the [R, U] one which I use for OH as I can't really table abuse but I assume you being a Roux solver will have an easier time with that as you'll need it (table abuse) for L6E.

For 4x4 H-perm I use the [M, U] as it is clearly faster... if the two middle slices do not misalign but doing it properly and not trying to go super-fast it is still faster than the RU. Yesterday I was trying it on the Yuxin 5x5 and with some additional amount of carefulness it also worked quite well. Anyway, it's easy to learn and good to have in your arsenal. For 6x6 and up I don't see me doing the MU

By the way, I had read it on Tapatalk and forgot to reply. Thanks a lot @Isaac Lai for your comments and suggestions about my 4x4 solves. Glad to know that there is at least one step I'm not terrible at . I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. I will try to implement all those suggestions and see where that takes me. A sub 1min single and sub 1:15 Ao5 would be a nice achievement before the end of the year.

 

[Shaky Hands]

That time with no skips, congrats! and awesome tps!

Very nice PB, Andy @Shaky Hands !!! It was not a lucky solve at all. So imagine what time could you get with a somewhat lucky PLL skip Also very nice improvement of almost a second over your previous PB. That shows a lot of potential!

Thanks both. The more I think back to this solve, I just remember being really relaxed when doing it. Indeed, if there's nothing lucky in the solve then my potential is for lower times than the one I got. I will see how things progress, but am feeling optimistic even if it was very much an outlier to my average. Cheers!

 

[mafergut]

There's not much to say about 3x3 stage, but here's a bonus trick: for the last F2L pair on the third solve, you could have inserted it with R' U2 R2 U R2 U R.

Also, very very nice alg for this F2L case. I will implement it, for sure!