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[Jason Green]

Not bad, not bad

Not even PB?

That lighting is good enough? From the video it doesn't seem so.

You know what I think it was a PB Ao5, I didn't even notice! I don't care deeply about Ao5's really, Ao12 means more to me because it helps in the forum races. I thought I had a sub 23 Ao5 but looking back it looks like a 22.95. I actually broke this one on the next solve with a 20.99, bringing average down to 22.89 (camera was stopped though). Maybe I should put it in my signature so I can remember. :rolleyes:

The lighting is good for me. It's an overhead light and two "old fashioned" bulbs, maybe the yellow light makes it look darker instead of more of a white light. Maybe even more light would help? It's a lot easier than when I practice in the garage.

Oh so, so close! You'll get there really soon. It may just be me but these solves look so much more fluid than those you posted last week. A lot less pauses

Thanks Chris! I hope they are more fluid, I know at times I do better with pausing than other times. Maybe I'll re-watch a couple of my videos to compare myself now that you mention that!

 

[newtonbase]

I just did my 2 7x7 solves, first one 5:25 centers, then pop and ended being a 11:08 and second one did centers in 5:04 and ended being an 8:55.66 PB, yay!

Funnily enough I did my first 7x7 solve in ages last night. My timer hit the 10 min limit before I'd finished centres. I think I'll continue with 5x5 and less for now.

 

[Lid]

Finally got sub16 avg12 today, all fullstep

15.680, 14.860, 16.961, (19.504), 15.033, 16.597, 16.926, 14.970, 16.824, 14.809, (13.466), 16.936 = 15.960

I also for a 11.169 fullstep just before this avg started, which is my second best fullstep single.

Spoiler: Scambles

Average of 12: 15.960
1. 15.680 D' F2 D' B2 R2 D L2 D2 B2 L2 R2 F' D R2 D' L F' R U2 F'
2. 14.860 F2 D2 R' D2 B2 R' B2 F2 R2 F2 R U L' B2 R' U F' L' B2 D' R'
3. 16.961 L B2 U R2 D R' L' D' L U2 F' D2 B' L2 B' R2 U2 L2 F2 D2
4. (19.504) D' R2 D' F2 L2 F2 R2 D2 F2 U2 B F' D R D2 F R' B' L R2 D2
5. 15.033 D' B2 D' U2 F2 U R2 F2 U' B2 L2 R' D2 L' F' L U' L' F2 R F'
6. 16.597 D' R' D L F' L2 U D' F' R D' R2 L2 U F2 U2 L2 U' B2
7. 16.926 D2 B2 D2 L2 B2 L' U2 L' F2 R' U2 B R B' R F2 D F2 R2 B R
8. 14.970 B2 U R2 D' B2 L2 R2 D F2 L2 B' R B R' D' L F' L2 D F2
9. 16.824 D2 F2 L2 B D2 F D2 U2 B' D2 F2 L B' D U L B' R D F' U2
10. 14.809 D' B U' D F B2 U L2 U D2 L U2 L2 U2 F2 U2 R' D2 B2 R'
11. (13.466) B' R2 B' U2 B L2 U2 F D2 R2 F2 L D B D2 R' B F' U R2 B'
12. 16.936 F2 U2 B2 D2 L2 B' L2 R2 F2 R2 B' D' F' D' L R F D R' U2 R'

Spoiler: 11.169 solve

B2 L2 F2 L R' F2 R' U2 R2 D2 B2 F' U R D2 B' D L2 R B

x y' D' R' D // cross
y' U2 L U L' // 1st
y R U' R' // 2nd
U' L' U2 L U L' U' L // 3rd
y' L' U' L U L' U L // 4th
U' r U2 R' U' R U' r' // OLL(#6)
y' R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' // PLL(Ub)
44 htm

I have also revamped my website abit, take a peek here if you already haven't.

 

[h2f]

Nice solves, nice page. I looked into your page few times.

 

[Jason Green]

Got it on cam! Not just a sub 20 but a new PB too. (PLL skip but that's fine by me)

https://youtu.be/NIZbB1qpXDc

 

[muchacho]

There it is, congrats!

I think I hear "yes! jest!", are you Polish too? jk

 

[Jason Green]

There it is, congrats!

I think I hear "yes! jest!", are you Polish too? jk [emoji14]

I'm not sure what that was after yes, kind of sounded like stepping on a dog's tail and he yelped. Thanks!

 

[mafergut]

Finally got sub16 avg12 today, all fullstep

I have also revamped my website abit, take a peek here if you already haven't.

Nice times!!! I'm envious
Your site is really, really nice but I have one question. Are you right handed for OH? All your algs are L based

Got it on cam! Not just a sub 20 but a new PB too. (PLL skip but that's fine by me)

https://youtu.be/NIZbB1qpXDc

Congratulations!!!! And for two reasons. 1) The solve is very nice and 2) it still has room for improvement (you had some doubts here and there during F2L and also it took you a while to recognize the skip and AUF) so I'm sure you will have a sub-16 PB single very soon.

 

[h2f]

There it is, congrats!

I think I hear "yes! jest!", are you Polish too? jk

Congrats Jason. Definietly there's is "yes" and next "jest" (you can read it as "yest"). I can hear "t"!

 

[moralsh]

Congrats! If you had known full OLL it wouldn't have been a PLL skip

if that is your PB single you are quite regular on your solves, not many seconds between single and average (I have almost 5 seconds in my official times and almost 4 at home)

 

[h2f]

I got today ao5 sub 20 on cam with slow turning. Okey - let's say it would be slow turning but sometimes I've speeded up.

 

[EvilGnome6]

I was messing around a bit with Speed-Cubjectives which uses some statistical analysis of WCA data to predict what your other events would be like based on your 3x3 average.

I average around 24.5 seconds right now and here's what it predicts for my other events:

2x2: 9.64
4x4: 1:59.88
5x5: 3:41.55
6x6: 6:16.94
7x7: 8:29.08

Those times are all much slower than my actual averages.

In order to get averages that are all close, I have to adjust down to 16.5 seconds:

2x2: 6.63
4x4: 1:21.88
5x5: 2:35.34
6x6: 4:44.13
7x7: 6:44.40

Other than 2x2 and 7x7, those averages are pretty spot on with my current Ao100s for those events. That still leaves me wondering why the heck I'm so slow at 3x3. I've never even gotten a 16.5 single and based on other events, that should be my average.

Or maybe it's the other way around and the average 3x3 solver is really bad at the big cubes and they should be faster.

 

[mafergut]

I can't believe this. In the middle of my bigger 3x3 crisis since I started cubing I got a PB full-step single by more than 0.3. It could have been sub-13.

31. 13.06 F2 D2 B U2 R2 U2 L2 B F' U2 F' D L' F' L2 R' U2 L D2

x2
R' U2 R2 U R L2 // XCross
U R U' R' // F2L#2
L' U2 L U' L' U' L // F2L#3
y' U L' U' L U2 L' U' L // F2L#4
OLL
y2 Y-perm

I got today ao5 sub 20 on cam with slow turning. Okey - let's say it would be slow turning but sometimes I've speeded up.

Nice Ao5 and, in particular nice last solve. I like your turning style when you slow solve. I need some more practice at that to practice not only lookahead but accuracy. Some times I just want to spam TPS faster than my brain-fingers can and I end up messing up algs and locking up a lot.

I was messing around a bit with Speed-Cubjectives [...]

That still leaves me wondering why the heck I'm so slow at 3x3. I've never even gotten a 16.5 single and based on other events, that should be my average.

Or maybe it's the other way around and the average 3x3 solver is really bad at the big cubes and they should be faster.

I think you practice more big cubes so you're better at it. I practice more 3x3 so, in comparison my big cube (4x4 only) times are worse, I suppose. But if there's some conclusion to be drawn from that is that you have potential to be sub-17 at 3x3, you just need to want to get there.

 

[moralsh]

mafergut, x2 R U' L2 R is an easier XCross I didn't saw yours at first glance.

U L U' L' U2 L U' L' without the rotation for the last pair with the rest of your reconstruction identical leaves you with a U-Perm at the end

EvilGnome, I'm also puzzled with your 3x3 times, that web is more or less spot on with my official times other that 3BLD (much less) and 4BLD and 6x and 7x (way more), I'm working an the last 3 though.

 

[muchacho]

Not a good solve from my part, but it was such a lolscramble, a 1 move FB, and the SB was 10 moves or so

17.351 R2 B2 D2 U R2 U B2 D2 L2 B2 D2 B' L D R2 D2 B' U2 F2 L' D U'

 

[Jason Green]

Not a good solve from my part, but it was such a lolscramble, a 1 move FB, and the SB was 10 moves or so

17.351R2 B2 D2 U R2 U B2 D2 L2 B2 D2 B' L D R2 D2 B' U2 F2 L' D U'

Nice! You're leaving me behind on PBs.

 

[mafergut]

mafergut, x2 R U' L2 R is an easier XCross I didn't saw yours at first glance.

U L U' L' U2 L U' L' without the rotation for the last pair with the rest of your reconstruction identical leaves you with a U-Perm at the end

Wow! I didn't see that x-cross option! The scramble had so much potential. The good thing about mine is that while doing the x-cross it also creates an extra blue-red pair, even though I was just tracking the pieces as 2nd F2L pair, I mean, I didn't see that the pair would be formed during inspection, to be honest.

Thanks a lot for the F2L case for the 4th pair! I will definitely add it to my repertoire. I'm lately realizing that my F2L needs improving a lot with things like those. This solve, with that insertion and the easier LL, could have been mid or even low 12 easily.

 

[muchacho]

Nice! You're leaving me behind on PBs.

Not in total of sub-20, and definitely not in averages.

I should (also) work on being more colour neutral, probably this solve could have been done faster, and I'm probably missing some nice starts in other colours (in fact I'm seeing more of them now that I take more time in inspection).

 

[h2f]

I can't believe this. In the middle of my bigger 3x3 crisis since I started cubing I got a PB full-step single by more than 0.3. It could have been sub-13.

31. 13.06 F2 D2 B U2 R2 U2 L2 B F' U2 F' D L' F' L2 R' U2 L D2

x2
R' U2 R2 U R L2 // XCross
U R U' R' // F2L#2
L' U2 L U' L' U' L // F2L#3
y' U L' U' L U2 L' U' L // F2L#4
OLL
y2 Y-perm

Nice solve. The last pair I would do like Raul.

Nice Ao5 and, in particular nice last solve. I like your turning style when you slow solve. I need some more practice at that to practice not only lookahead but accuracy. Some times I just want to spam TPS faster than my brain-fingers can and I end up messing up algs and locking up a lot.

Thanks.

 

[mafergut]

Nice solve. The last pair I would do like Raul.

Retried the scramble executing with Raul's (and your) 4th F2L pair. Got a 10.86. Of course, knowing the solve helps a lot but I guess this scramble is easily sub-10able.