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MarcelP said:
That would be nice. I hope you are not as fast as Schmidt.. LOL I try to make it again next Sunday but I can't promise it yet.



This Ao50 is a PB for me. Never had a sub 25 before.. The fact that people where watching made me focus a bit more than I usually do in big averages.. I even had one sub 20 in there.
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What's the time you did it and what's the time now?
I could join if it was called Battle of the sub 20-30 people :P ( Even though that name sounds stupid :P )
 
Ao12 sub 25 on video.. No exceptional fast ones but overall more consistency... I like that.

24.40 26.49 24.86 23.04 25.38 22.71 (22.23) 27.88 25.66 25.27 (29.78) 23.30 = 24.90
33. 24.40 B2 L2 F2 U' F2 U B2 U' F2 L2 B2 L D F2 U L2 B' U2 B2 F' R'
34. 26.49 R2 F2 L2 D' F2 R2 D' U L2 D2 R F D' B R U2 L2 U' L F2
35. 24.86 R2 D2 R2 F2 U' F2 R2 B2 U2 R2 U F' L B' R2 L' D' R U R F2 R'
36. 23.04 L2 D' R2 D2 R2 D' R2 U' F2 D' U2 B D2 L' D2 L' U F R2 D' U'
37. 25.38 B2 D B2 F2 U B2 D F2 R2 D2 U' R' B D' F U' R' D' F D R2
38. 22.71 U' R2 L2 F2 U' F2 D R2 F2 D U2 L' F R D' U' L D' R U' L' U'
39. 22.23 D' F2 L2 U' R2 U' B2 U2 B2 U L' F' R' B' R' F2 L2 D2 B2 U'
40. 27.88 D' L2 D2 F2 R2 F2 D F2 D' R2 D R' F D2 R' B2 R' F U' B D2
41. 25.66 L2 D2 L2 D L2 U B2 U F2 L2 U' B' U' F2 D' U' L U' F' R B2
42. 25.27 D L2 U' B2 D B2 U2 B2 R2 U R D2 U B2 F L' F2 L B' U
43. 29.78 R2 U' B2 L2 D2 R2 U' L2 D U' B' D2 L B F' U R' F' D2 B'
44. 23.30 R2 F2 R2 U2 F2 D L2 U2 F2 L2 U2 R F' L' D' L D U B2 F D' U'

[video=youtube_share;jJAQ_SAbPHI]http://youtu.be/jJAQ_SAbPHI[/video]
 
mark49152 said:
Nice one. Which cube?
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Just watch the first 6 seconds of the video ;) LOL

No, I am trying to make Weilong my main. My current main is HunagYing. I get the best times on that. But I like ShuangRen better. Unfortunatly I have some corner twists when I am really on fire. So therefore ShuangRen will not be my main. I ordered new Weilongs. I have a white one that performs really different than my white first one (prototype). Although I think the prototypes are same as production line, this new one is much better. It's more solid like a Zhanchi. The prototype is really unstable. The new one is just as fast, just as smooth and has same good performance in the lockup area. I am waiting on a bunch Cubesmith stickers. When restickered to pink this Weilong might become my new main. The Black Weilong is pure magic, but I am no good black cube solver. ;)
 
There's no embedded video or video link in the mobile site either. I need a phone with bigger screen :)

I have no main any more. I use a cube for a couple of days, then pick up another and think "this feels nicer". Repeat ad infinitum. Too many good cubes!
 
mark49152 said:
There's no embedded video or video link in the mobile site either. I need a phone with bigger screen :)

I have no main any more. I use a cube for a couple of days, then pick up another and think "this feels nicer". Repeat ad infinitum. Too many good cubes!
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If you ever enter a WCA competition, I think you should pick a main a few days before that and only solve that cube. So that there are no akward moves or anything while solving ;)
 
It's has been months but finally I broke my Ao100 with 0.08 seconds...

New main cube, MoYu Weilong.
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I saw your recent Weilong avg12 video, you wouldn't mind if I gave you some tips, right?

1) Cross

Try executing it faster, you can plan it well in inspection from what I saw, just try doing it faster, don't try to look where the cross edges while you solve it, that'll lead to pauses, just try memorising the moves in inspection, it's okay to use a bit more of inspection time. For an ideal sub-20 solver, cross should be around 3 seconds, yours are around 5, in some 3-4 solves I saw pauses before solving the 4th cross edge, try working on that, if you actually plan your cross wholly in inspection and solve without looking at it you might actually be able to lookahead into the first F2L pair easily.

That was one long sentence OMG

2) F2L

Pauses are still there, try looking ahead a bit more, unnecessary rotations like y2s and y3s should be eliminated, I guess doing slow solves, where you try to solve F2L with the least number of rotations will do the trick for you, also try inserting F2L pairs from different angles with R' U R, L U' L', etc, when I was averaging 26 I got an 18 second official solve ONLY because F2L had just 1 rotation, that shows how important minimising rotations are. Slow solves will help you in all of the above aspects.

I must applaud you for your pair insertion-execution though, excellent, better than mine, teach me pls :D

3) OLL

Try increasing tps a bit more here, from what I saw your LL tps was almost the same as F2L tps. Also get better algs, for example F (triple sexy) F' can be done in a better (IMO) way as R U2 R' U' sexy R U' R'. Drill all OLLs to increase tps

4) PLL

Same as above, though I don't think you need better algs, just drill them and try executing them faster, maybe look on Youtube for better ways of executing/better fingertricks, jskyler's channel is one of the places where you can learn this

:D

EDIT: also, what I think ideal splits for a sub-20 solver are is 3-10-3-3, compare yours with that and work on the part which needs most improvement
 
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mark49152 said:
Nice one :) Still takes me too long to do an ao100 so 50 will have to do.
Zhanchi 55. Didn't have any locking issues, which is unusual for me. This is my favourite cube...
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I have a few 55 mm's I don't really care for them. I like 57 mm Zhanchi's better. What was your average?

kunparekh18 said:
I saw your recent Weilong avg12 video, you wouldn't mind if I gave you some tips, right?
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Ofcourse not. I love any feed back.

kunparekh18 said:
1) Cross

Try executing it faster, you can plan it well in inspection from what I saw, just try doing it faster, don't try to look where the cross edges while you solve it, that'll lead to pauses, just try memorising the moves in inspection, it's okay to use a bit more of inspection time. For an ideal sub-20 solver, cross should be around 3 seconds, yours are around 5, in some 3-4 solves I saw pauses before solving the 4th cross edge, try working on that, if you actually plan your cross wholly in inspection and solve without looking at it you might actually be able to lookahead into the first F2L pair easily.
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Yes, crosses have been my biggest weaknes for a long time. But today I find it quite easy to plan a cross in 15 seconds. It also help that I can pick from any color. I have this strategy now that I look for the white cross first. When it is not an obvious cross I look further for a different cross. My solves are just as fast on any color now. Only white crosses are faster ;) But you have a few great points here. I guess I should do some more dedicated cross training.

kunparekh18 said:
2) F2L

Pauses are still there, try looking ahead a bit more, unnecessary rotations like y2s and y3s should be eliminated,
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I make y2 and u2 just to look for pieces when I have failed to look ahead.. Bad habit, I know ;)

kunparekh18 said:
I guess doing slow solves, where you try to solve F2L with the least number of rotations will do the trick for you, also try inserting F2L pairs from different angles with R' U R, L U' L', etc,
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Yeah, I have recently also found out my move count is unnecessary high.

kunparekh18 said:
I must applaud you for your pair insertion-execution though, excellent, better than mine, teach me pls :D
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You mean it is fast? I don't think my pair insertion is that good. I do think I make use of the best trigger for that most of the time.

kunparekh18 said:
3) OLL

Try increasing tps a bit more here, from what I saw your LL tps was almost the same as F2L tps. Also get better algs, for example F (triple sexy) F' can be done in a better (IMO) way as R U2 R' U' sexy R U' R'. Drill all OLLs to increase tps

4) PLL

Same as above, though I don't think you need better algs, just drill them and try executing them faster, maybe look on Youtube for better ways of executing/better fingertricks, jskyler's channel is one of the places where you can learn this
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Yeah, as long as I have been speedcubing have I been postphoning drilling of LL algs.. ;) I don't know why. I alsways figured the most was to gain in my F2L.

kunparekh18 said:
EDIT: also, what I think ideal splits for a sub-20 solver are is 3-10-3-3, compare yours with that and work on the part which needs most improvement
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Ah... mine is 4, 16, 4, 4.. makes 28 although I average 26 now.. I think the 16 is closer to 15 ;)
 
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