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[CubeAllDay123]

For f2l, look ahead is the best thing to improve your time, for speedcubers, the most important thing to focus on in the f2l stage is to never stop moving the cube. When you have found your 1st f2l pair, and are inserting it into its slot, an advanced speedcuber would already be looking for their next f2l pair. If you can manage this, your times should go down little by little. Good luck!

Happy cubing!

 

[sneaklyfox]

For f2l, look ahead is the best thing to improve your time, for speedcubers, the most important thing to focus on in the f2l stage is to never stop moving the cube. When you have found your 1st f2l pair, and are inserting it into its slot, an advanced speedcuber would already be looking for their next f2l pair. If you can manage this, your times should go down little by little. Good luck!

Happy cubing!

Is this a response to OP??

Anyway, I feel compelled to point out that an advanced speedcuber would not be looking for their next F2L pair when inserting the first pair into its slot. Way too slow. An advanced speedcuber would at least be looking for the next pair as soon as the first one is found if not already noticing stuck pairs and such stuff.

 

[kcl]

Is this a response to OP??

Anyway, I feel compelled to point out that an advanced speedcuber would not be looking for their next F2L pair when inserting the first pair into its slot. Way too slow. An advanced speedcuber would at least be looking for the next pair as soon as the first one is found if not already noticing stuck pairs and such stuff.

Can confirm, I plan next pair as soon as I see the current pair soluiton.

 

[MarcelP]

Yeah, me too. I start looking for the next pair when I have found the first one. I also look for my first pair while doing the cross.

 

[mark49152]

Marcel, are you still solving CN or did you revert?

 

[MarcelP]

New Ao12 PB... sub 19...

Spoiler

Best average of 12: 18.66
65-76 - 18.68 18.67 17.58 19.25 17.20 (16.57) 20.12 19.20 (20.16) 18.99 17.50 19.40

65. 18.68 U2 F2 D2 B2 R2 D B2 D' B2 D2 R' B2 F2 D B2 R' F' L D F U'
66. 18.67 U' R2 B2 U' L2 U' R2 D F2 L2 F R2 F' D' R2 B' L' B F2 L2
67. 17.58 R2 L2 U2 L2 U' F2 L2 U R2 D2 U' F L2 D' B L D2 U B2 R L' U'
68. 19.25 R2 L2 D F2 D' B2 D2 B2 R2 L2 D' R' B F' L' B R2 F' R' B
69. 17.20 L2 U F2 D2 F2 D' F2 U2 L2 F2 L2 B D U2 B U R' B L F R
70. 16.57 D' R2 F2 U2 B2 U F2 R2 B2 D2 L' B2 F D' B2 D2 R F' D2 B' U2// try this x-cross on yellow
71. 20.12 D2 L2 D F2 U' B2 U' F2 R2 D' U' L U R L' F2 U' B' D' U' R2
72. 19.20 F2 L2 B2 L2 U B2 D L2 D2 F2 D2 B' L2 B2 U R' U' B R2 U2 F U2
73. 20.16 D2 R2 D R2 U' B2 U' B2 F2 D2 B2 R F' U2 R' B2 F U B' R U' R'
74. 18.99 D R2 L2 U2 R2 U' F2 U' R2 B U F2 L' F' D2 U' L' D' B'
75. 17.50 F2 D2 U' R2 U B2 R2 F2 R2 L2 D' B' R D L B' D2 B2 F2 R' D2
76. 19.40 U2 R2 F2 R2 B2 D B2 U L2 U' R' B' L D2 F L U' F U L U

Altough I was not doing very good today.. (Ao100 22.15 this morning) I just now had an Ao100 of 21.79 with these solves in it. I was really in the zone for a while..

 

[Schmidt]

I seems that you break PB's so regularly that people stopped caring

 

[MarcelP]

I seems that you break PB's so regularly that people stopped caring

LOL.. I always wondered why they cared in the first place. I am still pretty excited about my improvement. I have not been able to cube since last PB. And I am too tired today. I hope it stays..

 

[mark49152]

LOL.. I always wondered why they cared in the first place. I am still pretty excited about my improvement. I have not been able to cube since last PB. And I am too tired today. I hope it stays..

Dude I care Looking at your PBs I'm a bit curious why there's such a gap between your ao12 and ao100. Yours is 2.7 sec, mine is 1.25 sec. I wonder why? What are other people's gaps?

 

[Rocky0701]

Dude I care Looking at your PBs I'm a bit curious why there's such a gap between your ao12 and ao100. Yours is 2.7 sec, mine is 1.25 sec. I wonder why? What are other people's gaps?

Mine is 1.59.

 

[sneaklyfox]

Difference for me is 1.2. Mark, your difference is really small for your speed since the difference should be smaller the faster you are. Anyway, my guess is that Marcel might get tired doing long averages? I know sometimes I would be in the zone for a couple dozen solves but then I get tired. Or sometimes I'm just busy and have to do things in between solves. If a long time passes I have to warm up again...

 

[DeeDubb]

Dude I care Looking at your PBs I'm a bit curious why there's such a gap between your ao12 and ao100. Yours is 2.7 sec, mine is 1.25 sec. I wonder why? What are other people's gaps?

Mine is 2.75. I think it's a combo of being in the zone for 12 solves, and having trouble maintaining during a whole ao100. Also, do you guys always do your ao100 in one session? I usually do, so it's possible I've had a better ao100 if I had done 50, taken a break, and done 50. I'm not sure though.

 

[kcl]

uhh mine is .7 haha

 

[MarcelP]

Yeah, my gap is big. My last PB of 18.66 was when I was really really in the zone. Strange thing is that I was doing it downstairs with my wife and kids talking to me and all. I think my PB's are a big factor of luck (I also need good scrambles with obvious crosses) and being in the zone. I simply can not stay in the zone for hundred solves. And DeeDubb, yeah I do most of my Ao100's in one sitting. If I am tired after 50 or so I just quit. Most of my good Ao100's I start being in the zone after 50 solves or so.

 

[Artic]

Hi Marcel!

Joining this wonderful thread since misery loves company heheh...and I'm in the same boat trying to get sub 20. Gosh, it seems so hard for me. I'm currently averaging ~20.xx and I just can't seem to break that barrier. I know we're both going to get there some day, but right now it just seems so far away

Oh, and I love your f2l. It's really smooth and controlled. It really is the hardest thing to understand and improve upon. I've watched a few of your videos and your f2l is awesome....hardly any pauses and rotations are limited as well. Mine is a bit sloppy, so I'm trying hard to improve.

Do you have a list of algorithms for your f2l? Or other resources I can study from? From your videos I can see you're doing things that I'm currently lacking, so even though you're slightly slower than me, I feel like I could learn a lot from you, especially in regards to f2l.

anyway, I'll be stopping by this thread more often and joining in! Here's to both of us finally cracking 20 seconds this year!

 

[MarcelP]

Oh, and I love your f2l. It's really smooth and controlled. It really is the hardest thing to understand and improve upon. I've watched a few of your videos and your f2l is awesome....hardly any pauses and rotations are limited as well. Mine is a bit sloppy, so I'm trying hard to improve.

Do you have a list of algorithms for your f2l? Or other resources I can study from? From your videos I can see you're doing things that I'm currently lacking, so even though you're slightly slower than me, I feel like I could learn a lot from you, especially in regards to f2l.

Geez, thanks. And Yes, as a matter of fact. Download my program here and train the F2LE part. These are the ones I selected for the hard cases. Also learning Viktors expert F2L (here). I work a lot on these and that might cause my F2L be my best part.

 

[h2f]

Do you have a list of algorithms for your f2l? Or other resources I can study from? From your videos I can see you're doing things that I'm currently lacking, so even though you're slightly slower than me, I feel like I could learn a lot from you, especially in regards to f2l.

I think some of them (and maybe all) are in Marcel's Alg trainer. The link is in Marcel's signature. By the way, I use the trainer for few weeks and I think it's a great thing to improve my times. It is intresting to compare algs you use with mine.

 

[MarcelP]

Difference for me is 1.2. Mark, your difference is really small for your speed since the difference should be smaller the faster you are.

I agree, Mark your gap is really small. You should treasure that. It means you are very very stable. I can go from a 14 seconds solve to a 34 second solve. I really get inconsistent time from time. Although I feel it gets better I am not near as consitent as you. These days when I start to solve my first Ao12 (without warm up) is low 23.xx. After a while I start getting 21 and some 20.xx averages. And the two sub 20 Ao12 I have had still are freak accidents

 

[MarcelP]

I think some of them (and maybe all) are in Marcel's Alg trainer. The link is in Marcel's signature. By the way, I use the trainer for few weeks and I think it's a great thing to improve my times. It is intresting to compare algs you use with mine.

LOL, Ninja-ed. Nice to hear people are using my trainer and actually taking advantage of it. Wow..

 

[MarcelP]

Ao12 = 13.48
Ao50 = 14.03
Ao100 = 14.68

Hey, I missed that post.. Sub 15 Ao100.. That is so awesome. Keep it up I suspect you will continue your winning streak for a while.