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pglewis

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3-move white cross, free F2L pair, PLL skip... forgot to start the timer. 11.71 on a 2nd attempt that I won't count as a PB but... shoulda-coulda.

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Not much going on here ... but I got a random new a12 PB on Sq-1 just before dinner: 14.558

(11.831), 13.990, 14.881[p], (16.343), 12.886, 15.105, 14.652, 14.460, 15.169, 13.098, 14.998, 17.510[p]

I really need to start on CSP.

Average of 12: 14.558
1. (11.831) (-3, 2) / (-5, -5) / (3, -3) / (-4, -1) / (1, -2) / (0, -4) / (-3, 0) / (3, 0) / (0, -2) / (-4, 0)
2. 13.990 (-2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (6, 0) / (-4, -4) / (1, -2) / (5, 0) / (-3, 0) / (3, -1) / (0, -5) / (6, -4) / (-3, 0) / (0, -4) /
3. 14.881[p] (6, 5) / (0, -3) / (-5, -5) / (0, -3) / (-1, -1) / (-5, 0) / (0, -3) / (-3, 0) / (6, -2) / (-2, 0) / (0, -4) / (3, 0)
4. 16.343 (0, 2) / (4, -5) / (-1, -4) / (0, -3) / (0, -3) / (0, -5) / (-3, -3) / (4, 0) / (5, 0) / (-2, -3) / (-3, -2) /
5. 12.886 (-5, 6) / (3, -3) / (-4, -1) / (0, -3) / (1, -5) / (-4, -3) / (-3, -3) / (0, -5) / (4, -2) / (2, 0) / (0, -4) /
6. 15.105 (1, 0) / (-4, 5) / (-3, 0) / (1, -5) / (3, 0) / (0, -3) / (0, -4) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (-5, 0) / (5, 0) / (-2, 0) / (5, 0) / (2, 0)
7. 14.652 (-2, 0) / (0, -3) / (-1, -4) / (-5, -5) / (6, 0) / (0, -3) / (0, -1) / (3, 0) / (2, 0) / (6, -2) / (3, -4) / (0, -2) / (-1, -2)
8. 14.460 (0, -4) / (-3, 6) / (-2, -5) / (-3, 0) / (2, -1) / (3, -5) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (-3, -5) / (2, -3) / (-4, 0)
9. 15.169 (6, 5) / (0, -3) / (4, -5) / (-3, -3) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (5, 0) / (-3, -3) / (-2, -1) / (4, 0) / (6, -4) / (2, 0)
10. 13.098 (1, 3) / (0, -3) / (-3, 0) / (-1, -4) / (3, 0) / (-3, 0) / (4, 0) / (0, -3) / (0, -2) / (-3, 0) / (3, 0) / (-4, 0) / (6, 0) /
11. 14.998 (-3, -1) / (4, -5) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (-4, 0) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (4, 0) / (-2, 0) / (-4, -3) / (-2, 0) / (-4, 0) / (6, 0)
12. (17.510[p]) (-2, 0) / (2, -4) / (-3, 0) / (1, -5) / (5, -4) / (-3, 0) / (-2, 0) / (0, -3) / (-1, 0) / (-3, -4) / (-2, 0) / (-5, 0) / (6, -4)
 

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I've been member of the forum for over 11 years now, but I turned 40 earlier this month so I guess that makes me one of them older cubers, hello everyone. :)
My humble goal is to get sub 10 sec average at some point in competition with 3x3, that might never happen but it certainly won't happen unless I try.
Welcome to the old folks club!

Same long-term goal here. It was initially sub 20, and I'm not quite there yet with a low 20 global average, but sub 20 is far from a crazy goal now. So sub 10 "one day" it is!
 

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I've been member of the forum for over 11 years now, but I turned 40 earlier this month so I guess that makes me one of them older cubers, hello everyone. :)
My humble goal is to get sub 10 sec average at some point in competition with 3x3, that might never happen but it certainly won't happen unless I try.
Not sure how up to date this is, but a sub-10 average would make you the second fastest 40+ solver: https://logiqx.github.io/wca-ipy-www/Senior_Rankings.html#333
 

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Last refreshed: 2020-07-20 04:13:46 (UTC)

@Logiqx not only keeps it up to date but has even added more functionality somewhat recently (like the filtering). It is still THE officially unofficial oldies list.
Oh yeah, I was more wondering about if all people of that age are in it, looks like you need to proactively get added, so imagine if you don't know about it, you won't be on it. Could be wrong on that though.

But agree, it's a great resource, and when I turn 40 next year, I hope to make it on that list, maybe not quite as high as others though.
 

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Not sure how up to date this is, but a sub-10 average would make you the second fastest 40+ solver: https://logiqx.github.io/wca-ipy-www/Senior_Rankings.html#333
Fastest average is Ron's 11.91 if I'm reading that right.
This should already be doable for me as my global avg in home is around 11 sec,
but talk is cheap and performing in competition is very different from home. Have to wait and see when I have a chance to participate again,
can't see any upcoming competitions in Finland yet.
My last competition is from 2016 and before that 2013, so I'm probably a bit out of touch when joining next time and most likely won't be advancing to final rounds as people are so much faster now.
 

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Oh yeah, I was more wondering about if all people of that age are in it, looks like you need to proactively get added, so imagine if you don't know about it, you won't be on it. Could be wrong on that though.

But agree, it's a great resource, and when I turn 40 next year, I hope to make it on that list, maybe not quite as high as others though.
It is opt in, but WCA has provided enough data so he can determine if there are others faster that are not on the list. If you scroll through you'll see some missing rank numbers, those are the people missing from the list. :)
 

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Fastest average is Ron's 11.91 if I'm reading that right.
This should already be doable for me as my global avg in home is around 11 sec,
but talk is cheap and performing in competition is very different from home. Have to wait and see when I have a chance to participate again,
can't see any upcoming competitions in Finland yet.
My last competition is from 2016 and before that 2013, so I'm probably a bit out of touch when joining next time and most likely won't be advancing to final rounds as people are so much faster now.
Welcome! The best way is to send your BOD to Michael to confirm you're listed as a senior even though I know Michael has list of senior "candidates" who will turn 40 soon.
 

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Hi guys, I'm new here, just introducing myself yesterday.

What an epic thread. I don't think I'll read the whole thing very soon, lol, but quite inspired by the OP who was celebrating breaking 1 minute in 2012, and I see in his YT channel that he improved quite a lot the next few years, before hitting a wall at 19 seconds last year!

I'm 45-50s solver on the 3x3, and am just aiming at regular 30s solves, so 19s is not my target any time soon, if ever.
 

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Hi guys, I'm new here, just introducing myself yesterday.

What an epic thread. I don't think I'll read the whole thing very soon, lol, but quite inspired by the OP who was celebrating breaking 1 minute in 2012, and I see in his YT channel that he improved quite a lot the next few years, before hitting a wall at 19 seconds last year!

I'm 45-50s solver on the 3x3, and am just aiming at regular 30s solves, so 19s is not my target any time soon, if ever.
Glad you found this! There's a lot more activity on the Senior cubers worldwide Facebook group these days!
 

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@Konsta @ep2

A couple of points of note.

Firstly, I have anonymous stats which allow me to account for people who are missing from the rankings. You can see these where the rankings skip some of the numbers. Pretty much all of the fastest seniors are subscribed and their names are listed. It's lower down the rankings where numbers tend to be skipped.

Secondly, the rankings are updated daily. I have a server that downloads the WCA results database every morning and refreshes the rankings. Senior results therefore appear within a day of them being on the WCA website.

It'll be interesting to see what speed people can carry through into their 40s. I'd be very surprised if someone can learn to cube in their 40s and become sub-10 (average) but I think people who started long before their 40s may be able to maintain something close to sub-10. Time will tell...
 

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It'll be interesting to see what speed people can carry through into their 40s. I'd be very surprised if someone can learn to cube in their 40s and become sub-10 (average) but I think people who started long before their 40s may be able to maintain something close to sub-10. Time will tell...
To me having goals is more important than actually achieving them. So in a sense it would be optimal for me to never get that sub-10.

It has been really exciting to see how cubes have developed from the original rubik's brand to the current state.
I remember opening the boxes and testing them in stores to see which one was the loosest back in 2008 or so,
the stiff ones were impossible to cube with, but current times and techniques wouldn't be possible even with the loose ones.
Who knows what kind of cubes we have in 10 years. Personally I'm pretty happy to the quality of current 3x3 cubes, but I also see room for improvements.
The gan 356i was great help figuring out what was wrong in my solves, too bad it broke down, the v2 is on its way tho.
I'm super lazy doing reconstructions and sometimes I don't even manage to find my original solution if there are too many ways to do it,
so the automatic reconstruction has been golden. I mostly want to see move count and tps and doing full reconstruction just for that is a lot of work.
 

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I have just recently restarted cubing.
My previous bout, a couple of years ago, lasted a couple of months, and saw me beat (once) the 60s barrier using LBL (typical average abt. 80s). I didn't have much success with CFOP though. Basically, I sucked at intuitive F2L :D
Now that I have restarted, I decided to use CFOP exclusively, and after some training I am starting to get faster in F2L, though I still average abt. 90s. Lousy, I know, but one week ago I was at 120s, so I am improving quickly.
The target, this time, is getting to an average of 40s and getting my PB below 30s. Will I make it? I think so. It will take some time though, but I'm having fun, so who cares? :)
 

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Yeah, have fun with it.

I was timing myself on a stack mat or on cs timer, and was in the high 40s on average, with occasional 60s+. Then I got a smart cube (Gan 356 i2) and thought my times would drop quickly since timer stops and starts automatically.

But now my average is mid-50s, with more frequent 60s+ and only occasional solves in low to mid 40s. :-(

But I have only had the 356 i about a week, and it is a lot looser than I like, so have slipped a few times. And I am trying to throw in a few “faster” algs. :)

It’ll get better, and it’s still fun, so... :)
 

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Hi guys, I'm new here, just introducing myself yesterday.

What an epic thread. I don't think I'll read the whole thing very soon, lol, but quite inspired by the OP who was celebrating breaking 1 minute in 2012, and I see in his YT channel that he improved quite a lot the next few years, before hitting a wall at 19 seconds last year!

I'm 45-50s solver on the 3x3, and am just aiming at regular 30s solves, so 19s is not my target any time soon, if ever.
Welcome to our little old folks club!

I was struggling to average under a minute when I found this place. I still don't have an official sub 20 average (or even sub 30... it has been a while since I've been to a comp) but it's not all that uncommon for me to get a sub 20 Ao5 at home here and there, now. 17-18 are "good" solves for me but it takes a sub 15 to even get a fist-pump out of me these days. I still need work on consistency but I continue to see progress. Even those of us who aren't "a natural" can make up for it with stubbornness and practice!
 
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