New Event ideas (Poll)

[TanookiTrev]

Platypus, definitely

 

[Renslay]

What about Speed BLD with a time limit for memorization (10, 20 or 30 minutes)?

 

[bluecloe45]

The day they put 360 in competition, is the day I quit cubing.
It's a toy, not a puzzle, its like the Revolution

 

[Ranzha]

The day they put 360 in competition, is the day I quit cubing.
It's a toy, not a puzzle, its like the Revolution

360 still has a method to solve. I rank it with magics.

Also, @Ben Skewb may not seem that popular, but it's certainly most strongly advocated for, as this post shows.

I don't recall when I voted, but if I could change it, I'd take relays out of my consideration. Too many puzzles at one station, yeesh. It seems pretty feasible for a 2-4 relay, but I don't reckon it'd be popular.

 

[bluecloe45]

360 still has a method to solve. I rank it with magics.

Also, @Ben Skewb may not seem that popular, but it's certainly most strongly advocated for, as this post shows.

I don't recall when I voted, but if I could change it, I'd take relays out of my consideration. Too many puzzles at one station, yeesh. It seems pretty feasible for a 2-4 relay, but I don't reckon it'd be popular.

Honestly, I can never see relays, or 360 in a competition. 2x2 BLD maybe, definitely skewb

 

[Ranzha]

Honestly, I can never see relays, or 360 in a competition. 2x2 BLD maybe, definitely skewb

2x2 BLD isn't a probable contender because of the skill level of some 2x2 competitors as it stands. A lot of times, experienced 2x2 solvers can 1-look solve the cube in a few seconds after initially picking it up for inspection. Also, 2x2 is notorious for easy scrambles, which explains the ridiculous single WR currently standing.
This could exist with Skewb too, but it's a bit less likely imo. The distribution of case optimality is pretty intensely variant.

 

[Meep]

2x2 BLD isn't a probable contender because of the skill level of some 2x2 competitors as it stands. A lot of times, experienced 2x2 solvers can 1-look solve the cube in a few seconds after initially picking it up for inspection. Also, 2x2 is notorious for easy scrambles, which explains the ridiculous single WR currently standing.
This could exist with Skewb too, but it's a bit less likely imo. The distribution of case optimality is pretty intensely variant.

I think it's more likely, actually.

 

[bluecloe45]

2x2 BLD isn't a probable contender because of the skill level of some 2x2 competitors as it stands. A lot of times, experienced 2x2 solvers can 1-look solve the cube in a few seconds after initially picking it up for inspection. Also, 2x2 is notorious for easy scrambles, which explains the ridiculous single WR currently standing.
This could exist with Skewb too, but it's a bit less likely imo. The distribution of case optimality is pretty intensely variant.

Then again, some scrambles are thrown out due to having three or four move solutions, possibly 2x2 BLD scrambles could be checked for that by delegates, judges.

 

[Tim Reynolds]

Meep, would you mind reposting that graph with percentages instead of the absolute number of positions?

 

[Ranzha]

I think it's more likely, actually.

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I was looking into that, too. But in actuality, how often do you 1-look a Skewb solution?

To answer Tim:

Positions   Skewb             2x2
0           0.00003           0.00003
1           0.00025           0.00024
2           0.00152           0.00147
3           0.00914           0.00874
4           0.05487           0.05027
5           0.32541           0.27195
6           1.88310           1.36456
7           10.00857          6.19287
8           38.91312          23.68084
9           46.22822          51.37904
10          2.57291           16.97803
11          0.00286           0.07196

So Sir Meep is right about case optimality distribution. But how easy is it to one-look Skewb?

 

[cubersmith]

So Sir Meep is right about case optimality distribution. But how easy is it to one-look Skewb?

It could become easier to see ahead in Skewb. Perhaps as easy as it sometimes is in 2x2

 

[Erik]

Personally, I don't find the idea of calling out the moves to a solve to be that great of an idea. Soon it will become overrun by teams who have 100 code words, and they'll have averages under 20.

And what if I may ask is so bad about this? It's a fun event everyone is able to do who can solve a cube (unlike hard events like BLD), it's fast, organizable and is actually something new (not a new cube or a variation of something we already have like 2x2 BLD would be): a social aspect. I think Team BLD would qualify better as an event than some events we already have running these days like 7x7 or 5x5 BLD which are both events that don't add anything new and take long to run.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

I've never really been into cuboids much, but I think adding one or two of the smaller ones would be a good choice. I might even be motivated into messing around with a fun/half decent method. 334 and/or 335.

 

[Michael Womack]

The day they put 360 in competition, is the day I quit cubing.
It's a toy, not a puzzle, its like the Revolution

I don't think 360 will ever become an event cause of time and intrist also I could get a 2 min solve then the next solve 5 min third solve 2:30.xx solve not like the other puzzles where the only a few secs difference

 

[Meep]

Meep, would you mind reposting that graph with percentages instead of the absolute number of positions?

 

[rubikmaster]

2x2BLD and Skewb would be nice but I don't think anything other than that would really be necessary. I'm actually happy with just the events they have currently.

 

[cubernya]

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Hmm...so it outranking 2x2 isn't a problem, since it's less than pyraminx

 

[Michael Womack]

3x3x3 OH BLD would be cool

Rules same as BLD & OH mix together

 

[IanTheCuber]

I personally think there would be way too big of a gap for DNFs, because dropping the cube could happen. I think that Square-2 should be implicated into the WCA. However, not many people have Square-2s at all.

 

[Ranzha]

3x3x3 OH BLD would be cool

Rules same as BLD & OH mix together

Think just how much time that would take, though. Experienced BLD methods use slice moves frequently. Not feasible imo.

And about Skewb, seeing a 5-move intuitive solution seems like a bit of a stretch even with today's fastest Skewb solvers. I honestly don't think Skewb will see sub-5 averages for a long while simply because of the turning style of the puzzle. And I'll certainly never see a sub-4 Skewb average.