New Event ideas (Poll)

[vd]

Honestly, even though I will love to see some of these events, I don´t see the point of speculating about new events while most of the competition does not even have all current ones included... But that may be just my point of view and TeamBLD is really cool, indeed.

 

[Michael Womack]

Now i'm thinking about it for teamBLD they would have to isolate each team so that they would not be confused with the other teams solving like the could hear D' F U form another team and dose it and it would give the solver the wrong solution.

 

[ZhanChi5]

Now i'm thinking about it for teamBLD they would have to isolate each team so that they would not be confused with the other teams solving like the could hear D' F U form another team and dose it and it would give the solver the wrong solution.

But teams can solve in different time. If it have something like timetable or cards with numbers of solvers. The problem will be solve.

 

[Ranzha]

But teams can solve in different time. If it have something like timetable or cards with numbers of solvers. The problem will be solve.

"9l) All competitors must compete in each round during the same time frame."
~WCA Regulations

Isolation would be easy. I'd assume there'd be at least four solving stations. In this case, put the teams at opposite ends of the solving area.

 

[Michael Womack]

"9l) All competitors must compete in each round during the same time frame."
~WCA Regulations

Isolation would be easy. I'd assume there'd be at least four solving stations. In this case, put the teams at opposite ends of the solving area.

Ya like what they would do at major big Comps like Nationals or World

 

[ketchuphater999]

17x17 for the rich peeps

 

[Michael Womack]

17x17 for the rich peeps

That would be Crazybadcuber and Oskar only so not really possible and it's not made for Speedsolving.

 

[Tim Reynolds]

I might have said my opinions before, but in case I've forgotten:

Skewb: I don't think we need another event where the single world record is meaningless. Once it becomes official it will become more mainstream, and people will get better at recognizing easy cases. Then lucky cases will start mattering more, and whoever gets more lucky cases in an average will do better. Basically, the curve is too similar to pyra and 2x2, which are already events that I think have problems with luck.

2x2 BLD: Way too luck-dependent.

Relays: I don't think these really add anything new. For 2-4 and 2-5 the variability is so much bigger the bigger cubes that it really comes down to who can solve the biggest cube fastest. Although I would like to see someone argue against that.

Team BLD: I think there are too many logistical issues. How do you hold paper in such a way that the caller is not obstructed but the solver is? There would have to be a very rigid rule about what kind of paper is allowed and where it can be held. How do you deal with the fact that competitors can impede each other by calling very loudly, which can actually be argued is proper solving strategy? That would be both a problem to competitors actively competing and an unfair advantage to people who haven't gone yet and get to hear the entire solve before doing it. I think expecting organizers to find different corners of the room, or having all competitors go sequentially, is way too much of a burden for organizers.

15 puzzle: This is sufficiently different from other events that it would add something new. I'm not sure it's particularly popular, though.

 

[Ranzha]

Team BLD: I think there are too many logistical issues. How do you hold paper in such a way that the caller is not obstructed but the solver is? There would have to be a very rigid rule about what kind of paper is allowed and where it can be held. How do you deal with the fact that competitors can impede each other by calling very loudly, which can actually be argued is proper solving strategy? That would be both a problem to competitors actively competing and an unfair advantage to people who haven't gone yet and get to hear the entire solve before doing it. I think expecting organizers to find different corners of the room, or having all competitors go sequentially, is way too much of a burden for organizers.

Paper issue: Paper inside blindfold. Pochmann style. Easy.
Loud calling: Isolation. Opposite sides of the same stage. Judge's discretion.

 

[Tim Reynolds]

Paper issue: Paper inside blindfold. Pochmann style. Easy.
Loud calling: Isolation. Opposite sides of the same stage. Judge's discretion.

Is that easy enough to become completely standard/required?
That assumes only 2 teams going at a time. That takes a lot of time. Best case on a stage the size of Nationals, we can get 4-6 teams going at once if we need to spread them out.

 

[Bob]

As much as I enjoy Team BLD, I think it is a very poor choice for an official event. I think running it as an unofficial event is fine because you can be less strict and still have fun.

 

[SpeedSolve]

I voted skewbydoobydoo and relay.

 

[CarlBrannen]

OH BLD Petaminx.

 

[cubernya]

For those of you saying skewb single would be pointless, we could try something out and place a limit on the number of optimal moves from solved. It's currently not done in any other event, but I see no reason why we can't do something like that. Taken from the graph previously posted, it falls right between Pyraminx and 2x2. It's statistically easier than 2x2, but harder than pyraminx, which is why I would think that that shouldn't be used negatively against it becoming event

The graph posted before:

 

[Meep]

It's statistically easier than 2x2, but harder than pyraminx, which is why I would think that that shouldn't be used negatively against it becoming event]

It's more so that because it's falling between two events that already have a problem, it'd be like adding a third problem on top of it.

Also, adding a restriction like "minimum distance for a scrambled state" would defeat the purpose of all the effort put in to ensure a fair distribution of the positions/scrambles.

 

[Ranzha]

Are there any arguments against 2x2 and pyraminx single being eradicated?

 

[Kirjava]

Skewb single can easily be sub2.

 

[Petro Leum]

why the heck did so many vote for 2x2 Blind? its absolutely pointless...

 

[Meep]

Are there any arguments against 2x2 and pyraminx single being eradicated?

I'd imagine it'd look really bad/inconsistent if all other average-based events noted best singles and that one didn't (regardless of how silly the results might be). Though a problem is that it reaches a point where averages can depend on easy scrambles.

 

[Godmil]

This poll is very biased against different puzzles (only 3 out of 10 aren't WCA puzzles). There has to be more interesting puzzles than just Skewb.
I'm a big fan of 3x3x2 and 3x3x4, though 3x3x2 has the same easiness problem that 2x2/pyra have. 3x3x4 has a complexity that is similar to the 3x3, but still has a completely different solving style.
I don't have a wide variety of other puzzles, are there other good ones that are complex and different? Like what is the gear cube like?