Multiple bld - how you do it?

[Pedro]

Hey everyone

I got a chance to participate in the multiple bld event at WC07, so I was wondering how you multiple blders do it...

for normal bld I use rote memory, as they say...I just make mental pictures for CO, use number for wrong edges on EO, and numbers/positions on the cube for the permutations

I once got 2 cubes correct...the time was 4:39

I tried 3 sometimes, but failed...

so, are you guys using memory techniques to make what you memorise stick "stronger" to your head? any tips for me? (I'm thinking about trying 3 or 4 cubes)

thanks

 

[pjk]

Go for a large amount, but take as long as you need to get it into your mind. Go for 5+. Just go over and over the cubes until you have it down. That is what I'd recommend doing to practice.

 

[joey]

I think visual for 3+, or even 2+ is very difficult.
I would suggest learning the journey method, to memorise the path of cubies. Most of the big cube/MultiBLD people use that. You could either learn a word for each cubie, or make one up on the spot that reminds you of the colours.

 

[Pedro]

hmm...I kinda "know" the journey method and how it works, but never tried making the images and storing them, or even creating a journey...and I don't think I'll get good at it in one week

maybe I'll do something like memorising one cube in the water, one in a street, one in a house, one in a car...don't know...I can try to use letters and make words for the permutations, as that's the part that I forget most...

 

[kemot_13]

Can you discribe the journey method on some scramble?

 

[tim]

Can you discribe the journey method on some scramble?

I don't think this will be very helpful. You have to find a memory system, which feels right and logical for yourself.

 

[Mike Hughey]

I honestly think visual is just fine for 2 cubes. It's really not that much to remember, and for me it's a lot faster. But if you go above 3, I'd say you need more than that. I've never actually tried 3 before, though - it seems to me like 3 would still be pretty easy to do visual.

Soon I'll finally have more than 2 decent cubes, so I'll probably try sometime soon. I figure I'll probably still use hexadecimal for the orientations (I would imagine that will get tricky when I get to 4 or 5 cubes, though), and then use letter pairs in a story like I do for big cubes BLD on the permutations.

If I ever switched to something that doesn't have a separate orientation step, like M2/R2, TuRBo, or all commutators, that would simplify things, but I've been too busy on the big cubes BLD to experiment much with 3x3x3 - I still just use regular 3-cycle. I would think one of these other methods would be much more conducive to multi BLD. Then again, Rowe Hessler has had a lot of luck with multi BLD, and he just uses regular 3-cycle, so maybe it's not that important.

 

[masterofthebass]

This weekend I'm going for the NaR because no one's done it successfully yet. Rowe's going to be there, but he's probably going big. I'm only going for 2 cubes, but my memo system is the same. I use M2 and Y perm corners. I just memorize a sequence of colors (white-red, blue-orange, etc...) and solidify it. I'm not sure if I would be able to really memorize more than a few cubes with this method though.

 

[Mike Hughey]

This weekend I'm going for the NaR because no one's done it successfully yet. Rowe's going to be there, but he's probably going big. I'm only going for 2 cubes, but my memo system is the same. I use M2 and Y perm corners. I just memorize a sequence of colors (white-red, blue-orange, etc...) and solidify it. I'm not sure if I would be able to really memorize more than a few cubes with this method though.

Cool - good luck with that! I hope you get it! (Although it would be nice to see Rowe get one of his big attempts successfully, too.)

 

[AvGalen]

Too bad Dan, the Dutch still rule: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/events.php?eventId=333mbf&regionId=Netherlands&years=&show=100%2BPersons&single=Single vs http://www.worldcubeassociation.org...nId=USA&years=&show=100+Persons&single=Single

 

[Erik]

I think visual for 3+, or even 2+ is very difficult.
I would suggest learning the journey method, to memorise the path of cubies. Most of the big cube/MultiBLD people use that. You could either learn a word for each cubie, or make one up on the spot that reminds you of the colours.

hey I did 3/4 (only 3 twisted corners) with visual

 

[Derrick Eide17]

nice erik. i have only ever done 2 cubes BLD. but im sure with more practice lately and getting back into 4x4 BLD my memo will become better and more effecient.