Michael Wimberly, CrossPetrus, Sub20Soon, and Cuber239 race to sub-15 ao5 on 3x3! WINNER HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED!

[Cuber239]

Dang bro somehow my ao12 is faster then you by like .2 but my ao100 is slower by like .8 I started this race with like a 3s ao5 lead lol, gotta lock in fr. Maybe learning full pll would help. I think once I learn that I just gotta work in f2l because I will have like a 7s lasts layer and like a 13s f2l

 

[Cuber239]

Also do you guys know roughly what your splits are?

 

[Michael Wimberly]

Also do you guys know roughly what your splits are?

Very rough:
Cross: 3
F2L: 11
OLL: 3.5
PLL: 2.5

 

[Cuber239]

Nice

 

[Sub20Soon]

Finally a sub-20 ao100!
19.98
PB ao50:
19.23
ao12:
18.28

wow im happy for you !! can i ask you a question ? what made you sub 20 ?

 

[Michael Wimberly]

wow im happy for you !! can i ask you a question ? what made you sub 20 ?

Lookahead, inspecting full cross, and more efficient f2l algorithms.

 

[Sub20Soon]

Lookahead, inspecting full cross, and more efficient f2l algorithms.

So full alg f2l ?

 

[Michael Wimberly]

So full alg f2l ?

You don't need the best algs, but you need to be able to know exactly what to do when you see any f2l case.
EDIT: I just want to add on to this by saying that I didn't learn algs from any tutorials, I just memorized decent intuitive solutions.

 

[Sub20Soon]

You don't need the best algs, but you need to be able to know exactly what to do when you see any f2l case.
EDIT: I just want to add on to this by saying that I didn't learn algs from any tutorials, I just memorized decent intuitive solutions.

ohh okk thank you

 

[Cuber239]

What you guys think of my new pfp.

 

[Sub20Soon]

What you guys think of my new pfp.

yeah its good but basic if you have any drawing software try to make a trash drawing od a cuebe or anything realted to cubing it gives personality

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

You don't need the best algs, but you need to be able to know exactly what to do when you see any f2l case.
EDIT: I just want to add on to this by saying that I didn't learn algs from any tutorials, I just memorized decent intuitive solutions.

While i agree that you should be able to execute an F2L solution instantly, I think it’s a lot better to learn the best algs. Because not everybody at the 20 second barrier knows what makes a case “good”. They might think that “oh super low move count that must be really good” but then the ergonomics are horrendous. It’s better to be safe than to have regrets.

also how do you base your global?
I personally switch to a fresh session with no times in it and do an ao100
I find that in my main session the times are better than in a fresh session (idk why)

 

[Sub20Soon]

i mean you check at your recent times and estimate you global. for me i global 20-22

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

i mean you check at your recent times and estimate you global. for me i global 20-22

what if you were in the zone for those recent times?
what if you got back to back PBs in those averages?

 

[Michael Wimberly]

While i agree that you should be able to execute an F2L solution instantly, I think it’s a lot better to learn the best algs. Because not everybody at the 20 second barrier knows what makes a case “good”. They might think that “oh super low move count that must be really good” but then the ergonomics are horrendous. It’s better to be safe than to have regrets.

also how do you base your global?
I personally switch to a fresh session with no times in it and do an ao100
I find that in my main session the times are better than in a fresh session (idk why)

I base my global from all my solves in the past week.
Also, I've been learning better F2L algs which is pretty hard because my muscle memory for the bad lags is very strong, I kinda regret doing that tbh.

 

[Sub20Soon]

what if you were in the zone for those recent times?
what if you got back to back PBs in those averages?

lots of what ifs. anyway not the recent recent times but like what i see often on the timer and based off my big averages like ao100 or ao500 (yeah i prolly dont have an average of 10k like you caleb)

 

[Michael Wimberly]

I don't really get in a lot of times solves a day, maybe 50 to 100 at most, and most of my solves are slow solves focused on improving efficiency and practicing new algs.

 

[Sub20Soon]

guys i got a sub 17 ao5

Spoiler: ao5 PB !!

Generated By csTimer on 2026-03-06
avg of 5: 16.77

Time List:
1. 17.25 U R2 B R2 D2 L2 F2 U2 B' D2 U2 R2 B2 D B2 L' U2 L U' L' R
2. (14.77) D2 R2 B2 U2 B' R2 D2 B U2 F R U' F D L2 U F' L D2
3. 15.31[PLL Skip] R2 D F2 L2 U R2 U B2 F2 D' B2 F D' R U' F R2 F2 U L2
4. (23.66) F D2 L2 U F2 D' F B2 R U2 L2 U L2 F2 U D2 F2 R2 D
5. 17.74 R B' F2 R2 U2 L D2 F2 R' D2 L2 R' U' L B R' B L2 F

 

[Cuber239]

guys i got a sub 17 ao5

Spoiler: ao5 PB !!

Generated By csTimer on 2026-03-06
avg of 5: 16.77

Time List:
1. 17.25 U R2 B R2 D2 L2 F2 U2 B' D2 U2 R2 B2 D B2 L' U2 L U' L' R
2. (14.77) D2 R2 B2 U2 B' R2 D2 B U2 F R U' F D L2 U F' L D2
3. 15.31[PLL Skip] R2 D F2 L2 U R2 U B2 F2 D' B2 F D' R U' F R2 F2 U L2
4. (23.66) F D2 L2 U F2 D' F B2 R U2 L2 U L2 F2 U D2 F2 R2 D
5. 17.74 R B' F2 R2 U2 L D2 F2 R' D2 L2 R' U' L B R' B L2 F

Nice!!

 

[Sub20Soon]

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Nice!!

Oh btw for your pfp i didnt see the animaion cuz i was on a very laggy device and it didnt move but its cool !