[SAR] Leopoldo Andrés Ibarra Fuentes Megaminx 1:11.04 avg and 1.08.96 single

[lego]

 

[Julian]

Congrats on the CRs.

 

[Rune]

Why not use AR for all American records? (Retaining NAR/SAR).

 

[mati rubik]

because north and south america are different continents

 

[Rune]

because north and south america are different continents

Aha!

 

[Julian]

Am I getting the feeling Rune thinks that North and South America should be one continent?

 

[Rune]

North America and South America are now treated as separate continents. However, in earlier times they were viewed as a single continent known as America, with this viewpoint remaining common in the United States until World War II.[13] This remains the more common vision in Spain, Portugal and Latin American countries, where they are taught as a single continent.

 

[qqwref]

If North and South America are the same continent, why not Europe and Asia? (And for that matter, Africa too - the land bridges in Panama and Egypt are roughly comparable.)

Plus, I like how keeping track of the SAR has been allowing the South American cubing community to develop at its own pace. If they had had to compete against the NARs, which were far superior until relatively recently, any South American cubing accomplishments would have been ignored for many years.

 

[Rune]

We all know that Antarctida is the sixth continent. I suppose North America is the First continent. I just wonder; which number does South America have?

(Did you notice I wrote "retaining SAR/NAR"? It means that a south American record should be noted as a SAR or as an AR, depending on the north American record)

 

[MTGjumper]

Vaalbara or Ur was the first continent.

... also, how is North America the first continent?

 

[Rune]

Did you notice the capital letter (in first)?

 

[MTGjumper]

How does that change things?

 

[RCTACameron]

We all know that Antarctida is the sixth continent. I suppose North America is the First continent. I just wonder; which number does South America have?

They are all continents, but why should they be ordered? And if they were ordered, Asia should be the first continent because it is by far the largest in population and land area.

I guess you could call it something like an AR (or AmR because there is already AsR), but it wouldn't really be official.

OT: Nice solves.

 

[~Adam~]

Congrates on the solves.

The 5 Olympic rings are meant to represent the 5 continents competing, so they consider North and South America to be one continent.
I don't agree with this but I thought I'd throw it into the ring.

I suppose North America is the First continent.

Do you actually think that? Why? Because that's where Hollywood is?

 

[Rune]

How does that change things?

Do you feel the difference between "mother Maria" and "Mother Maria"?

Congrates on the solves.

The 5 Olympic rings are meant to represent the 5 continents competing, so they consider North and South America to be one continent.
I don't agree with this but I thought I'd throw it into the ring.



Do you actually think that? Why? Because that's where Hollywood is?

Long ago I told a great man (SP) that I refuse to use smiles. "May the man, not understanding my thoughts, remain in uncertainty."
That man understands without smiles, others don´t.

They are all continents, but why should they be ordered? And if they were ordered, Asia should be the first continent because it is by far the largest in population and land area.

I guess you could call it something like an AR (or AmR because there is already AsR), but it wouldn't really be official.

OT: Nice solves.

The sixth continent, Antarctida, IS ordered. And you know why? For the fact that "the whole world" knew, there were Five continenents, when they discovered it. But then, all of a sudden, USA got a whim and declared to the world: BE AMERICA TWO CONTINENTS "! And that´s all.

 

[MTGjumper]

What the hell are you even talking about now? You could make a plausible argument that there are 4 continents. I don't see why you have such a problem declaring North and South America as two continents when combining Europe and Asia could also easily be justified.

 

[Rune]

Well, som history::
1. Europe: stood for central-north Greece, and by 500 BC its meaning had been extended to the lands to the north.
2. Asia: from Greec Ασία, used by Herodotus 440 BC.
3. Africa: meant at first the part of that continent that was known by the Romans.
4. America: Mercator applied that name to the entire New World in his 1538 world map.
5. Australia: The name was popularized in the book "A voyage to Terra Australia" 1814.

 

[qqwref]

But then, all of a sudden, USA got a whim and declared to the world: BE AMERICA TWO CONTINENTS "! And that´s all.

This sounds pretty ridiculous (do you have any proof it happened anything like this?). It looks like instead there are three common models (7 continents, 6 with combined Europe+Asia, 6 with combined Americas) which are the standard in different countries. There is no such "mandate" from the USA that there are 7 continents.

My personal favorite is "6 with combined Europe+Asia" because it makes the most sense. Here is the diagram of tectonic plates in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg. There is a clear division between North and South America, and Eurasia has one big plate; you can note that parts of Russian land are in the North American plate, and that regions near Saudi Arabia, Panama, and India have their own plates, but it makes sense to ignore some of those smaller divisions when talking about the big continental islands.

 

[Mike Hughey]

This has a lot of the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

It looks like even the United States generally considered America to be one continent until the 1950s, when US geographers decided to switch to two for plate tectonics reasons, as qq mentions. So I think it's a little unfair to say it was done on a whim.