Last Layer Methods (OLL/PLL or CLL/ELL)

[Cuber987]

What is better, OLL/PLL (at 78 - 57/21 algs) or C(O)LL/ELL (at 71 - 42/29 algs) and why?

 

[Cuber Score]

OLL/PLL, because I haven't had that much trouble learning it.

 

[ProStar]

As someone who's tried both, I prefer CFOP over CFCE. CFCE is a perfectly valid (and underdeveloped) method, but I do think the LL recognition is a bit worse than CFOP, and generally speaking the CFOP algs are a bit better

 

[CLL Smooth]

CLL isn't bad but ELL recognition sucks. It's worth learning some of the easy to recognize cases to use when they pop up but I'd rather use OLL/PLL just cause the recognition is easier.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

1LLL

 

[lucazdoescubingstuff]

both, i find them both interesting but if only one then OLL and PLL. easy to learn, fast, and cool

 

[Burrito]

TSLE+TTLL because

* only 72 algs (tsle can be intuitive)
* ll skip
* 1/5 chance for pll, 1/3 2-gen, better chances for true LSLL skip

 

[Deleted member 36445]

TSLE+TTLL because

* only 72 algs (tsle can be intuitive)
* ll skip
* 1/5 chance for pll, 1/3 2-gen, better chances for true LSLL skip

@Swagrid

 

[Swagrid]

TSLE+TTLL because

not a LL approach. this is a LSLL method, not LL.


they're talking about cfop, not zz

only 72 algs (tsle can be intuitive)

but it's better with algs

1/3 2-gen

cp does not work that way. 1/6 always.

better chances for true LSLL skip

skip the entire LSLL then we'll talk

 

[Burrito]

not a LL approach. this is a LSLL method, not LL.


they're talking about cfop, not zz


but it's better with algs


cp does not work that way. 1/6 always.


skip the entire LSLL then we'll talk

Got one today with smart Cube — will edit with vid

 

[Burrito]

Another good one is ZB

 

[Silky]

Last Layer methods mapping

Hello, As discussed in another thread, I am trying to do a mapping of the different methods to solve the Last Layer (after F2L). My sources are mainly the discussions in this forum and the wiki of this website. Here are the results so far. 1LLL : one-look last layer. Directly solves any last...

www.speedsolving.com

 

[Thom S.]

only 72 algs (tsle can be intuitive)

But if you take that card, you gotta realize that, speaking about ZZ, OLS can also be intuitive as it's the same principle at TSLE.
Leaving only PLL with 21 Cases.

 

[Vo1d]

OLL/PLL does have better recognition, the algs are more developed, and is easier overall. I do believe, however, that CLL/ELL is an underdeveloped method that should be looked into. I feel like ELL's recognition isn't as bad as it seems, but PLL is a much easier step with a higher chance of a skip. I do feel like OLL and CLL are quite comparable, similar algorithm count, similar recognition, but overall I have to hand it to OLL/PLL.