Last Layer help

[AJelsma]

Ok lets just get straight into it

I need help on my last layer i know full oll and pll (FULL) but I still average 10 seconds on the last layer can anyone help me

thank you

 

[a small kitten]

Practice them until you get faster. Work on recognizing them faster.

 

[abr71310]

Beginner's Thread much?

And what are your normal solve times?
For LL ( I only know 1/5 OLL and 1/2 PLL) I average 8 seconds, and I suck at finger-tricks.

 

[AJelsma]

Beginner's Thread much?

And what are your normal solve times?
For LL ( I only know 1/5 OLL and 1/2 PLL) I average 8 seconds, and I suck at finger-tricks.

i average 22-24 roughly but i usually do like 22 or 23 second solves

 

[minsarker]

as the first person said, id say just use recognition and faster hands so basically PRACTICE

im at a solid minute average lol, and all I know is 4LLL and I average about a 15sec LL so you should be easily 8seconds since you use 2 moves and I use 4

8seconds is still slow since my 15seconds is snail speed! So basically, your telling me you do cross and F2L in roughly 10-12 seconds? NICE!

 

[AJelsma]

as the first person said, id say just use recognition and faster hands so basically PRACTICE

im at a solid minute average lol, and all I know is 4LLL and I average about a 15sec LL so you should be easily 8seconds since you use 2 moves and I use 4

8seconds is still slow since my 15seconds is snail speed! So basically, your telling me you do cross and F2L in roughly 10-12 seconds? NICE!

mins what do you think is a good time for ll like 5 secs (or what is not snail speed) and thank you yes f2l and cross about 13 yea

 

[Sa967St]

did you rush learning the OLLs and PLLs? If you can't recognize cases and figure out which algs you need to do quickly, thats's probably whats slowing you down. Either that or you just need to work on fingertricks


EDIT: if you think recognition is your problem, something like this may help (for PLLs) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBYycb7hR4Y

 

[minsarker]

Well, considering most speed cubers are in the sub 20 range with 2sec cross. I would say that a good LL would probably be 5sec (once again correct me if I am wrong). But 5sec does not seem unachievable, and from what I read just now I would assume you rushed through learning PLL and OLL so that now you have to think before you can remember case whatever equals blank.

I spent a solid week learning OLL, then a solid week learning PLL. I just learned F2L and got it down where I could do it somewhat fast, and then just worked on OLL and PLL seperately to make sure I really understood it and didnt rush.

Good luck!

 

[AJelsma]

k so i did an average of 6 on ll and here
6.61, 11.41, 8.22, 4.31, 7.66, 9.26

the 4.31 time was a pll of U2 so pll skip thank you for that video i will have to work on the headlights idea
I am still not where i would like to be but it was helpful

 

[AJelsma]

ok i did another average (5) and wow it was better even on the r perm (it was the right side) but r, v, f are my worst (not to bad at the right r but left havent spent to much time on)
here were the times and i didnt repeat the solves
7.09, 6.83, (7.55), (5.12) 6.92 and average 6.95

i realized i need a little more work on recognition if you have tips on that that would be great
I also need to speed up a few pll and tips? and its not really my fingers that are the problem idk what is any tips
thank you