Journey to ZBLL + Why ZBLL is so important

[Nir1213]

I don't think the statement that ZBLL is important makes any sense unless you're saying what it's for. So many of the arguments at the start of this thread don't make any sense to me. Clearly there are things that ZBLL is good for, and things which ZBLL is overkill for. If you're just aiming for a 8-9 average
ZBLL is very clearly just a lot of unnecessary effort and you'd be better off spending your time on F2L. On the other hand, top cubers learn large portions of ZBLL because it does give them an advantage, and it makes sense to start earlier if you do want to know a large part of it.



I agree with this however.

yep you have a point. I tell people to at least start at sub 8, but that might not be even enough. You have to be really good at f2l and cross, and then you might think of 1LLL.

IMO you should learn it, because then when you get faster, the algs are good in your muscle memory.

it may be a burden for him.

 

[Jam88]

it may be a burden for him.

But I thought he wanted to learn them

 

[Tao Yu]

A lot of people really seemed to be tied to this idea that you have to justify learning ZBLL somehow, and that you should only do it if it's "worth it". Even when people state that they are learning the algs for fun, people really don't seem to be able to let go of the idea.

There are quite a few examples of people who actually did learn ZBLL just for fun, and without any intention to make it "worth it". To give some examples (only including people I've personally talked to), there is me, Callum Hales-Jepp and Micki Kanaiya Harning. As far as I know, none of us are sub 8 and definitely didn't need full ZBLL to achieve our global averages. I don't think any of us regret learning it.

If you really want encourage people not to learn ZBLL (for some reason) you should probably instead cast doubt on whether they really find it fun to learn algs. From my experience, it is actually quite rare to enjoy learning big algsets, and sometimes it's a thing you think you'd enjoy until you actually try to do it. I've seen quite a few people initially claim they like learning algs, but quickly get bored when they try to tackle something like ZBLL.

 

[Nir1213]

But I thought he wanted to learn them

later on he might just stop.

I've seen quite a few people initially claim they like learning algs, but quickly get bored when they try to tackle something like ZBLL.

Just saying, make sure you know what your dealing with before you go on to learning big algsets.