Is this person faking?

[baseballjello67]

what does it matter if a video was cheated or not? its not like its official, yeah its questionable but like, is it worth fighting over?

Better to be always honest than to be dishonest, and being honest is a very important thing throughout life.

 

[quanloh]

why even post when you're adding no value whatsoever to the discussion?

Because I don't think there is any value of continuing the discussion after Luke apologised.

You keep missing my point.

For example,
Mr. A committed a crime, he finally admitted, and people said they will forgive him.
But these very people keep discussing/recreating the crime scene publicly,
showing everyone how Mr. A committed the crime.

Now.
Luke faked a solve/time, he finally admitted, and people said they will forgive him.
But these very people keep discussing/recreating the fake publicly,
showing everyone how Luke faked it.

To me this is not OK.
This is still shaming Luke.
This is being toxic.
And you people try to sugar coat it with "we are discussing the fact".

How not to be toxic:
1. Discuss the "fact" in a more private channel, without mention Luke's name.
2. Discuss the "fact" in another post without mention Luke's name.

 

[baseballjello67]

Because I don't think there is any value of continuing the discussion after Luke apologised.

You keep missing my point.

For example,
Mr. A committed a crime, he finally admitted, and people said they will forgive him.
But these very people keep discussing/recreating the crime scene publicly,
showing everyone how Mr. A committed the crime.

Now.
Luke faked a solve/time, he finally admitted, and people said they will forgive him.
But these very people keep discussing/recreating the fake publicly,
showing everyone how Luke faked it.

To me this is not OK.
This is still shaming Luke.
This is being toxic.
And you people try to sugar coat it with "we are discussing the fact".

How not to be toxic:
1. Discuss the "fact" in a more private channel, without mention Luke's name.
2. Discuss the "fact" in another post without mention Luke's name.

The only meaningful thing that has been added to this thread since Luke apologized, if there is anything, was my recreation to show people what it looked like. What you are saying is not adding anything.

 

[quanloh]

what does it matter if a video was cheated or not? its not like its official, yeah its questionable but like, is it worth fighting over?

He finally has a chance to show his "superiority", dont stop him.

We are discussing facts here right @baseballjello67 ?

 

[An Animating Cuber]

Because I don't think there is any value of continuing the discussion after Luke apologised.

You keep missing my point.

For example,
Mr. A committed a crime, he finally admitted, and people said they will forgive him.
But these very people keep discussing/recreating the crime scene publicly,
showing everyone how Mr. A committed the crime.

Now.
Luke faked a solve/time, he finally admitted, and people said they will forgive him.
But these very people keep discussing/recreating the fake publicly,
showing everyone how Luke faked it.

To me this is not OK.
This is still shaming Luke.
This is being toxic.
And you people try to sugar coat it with "we are discussing the fact".

How not to be toxic:
1. Discuss the "fact" in a more private channel, without mention Luke's name.
2. Discuss the "fact" in another post without mention Luke's name.

I don't see your point here, they're still discussing luke cheating because some people didn't have the opportunity to see the obvious fake video luke posted so they believed he had not cheated, not to publicly ostracize him.

 

[Running for cube]

The only meaningful thing that has been added to this thread since Luke apologized, if there is anything, was my recreation to show people what it looked like.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+boasting

 

[baseballjello67]

I don't see your point here, they're still discussing luke cheating because some people didn't have the opportunity to see the obvious fake video luke posted so they believed he had not cheated, not to publicly ostracize him.

Thank you. Finally someone who can see the meaning behind things.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+boasting

I'm not boasting, I'm simply saying my opinion.

 

[SpedCube]

Better to be always honest than to be dishonest, and being honest is a very important thing throughout life.

I agree with that, and I try to live by that on a day to day basis. However, I believe it's clear that this discussion wont get anywhere

 

[Running for cube]

Thank you. Finally someone who can see the meaning behind things.

I'm not boasting, I'm simply saying my opinion.

You’re right, that was a dumb post for me. I forgive @Luke Solves Cubes and I’m not gonna reply to this anymore.

 

[quanloh]

I don't see your point here, they're still discussing luke cheating because some people didn't have the opportunity to see the obvious fake video luke posted so they believed he had not cheated, not to publicly ostracize him.

I am saying this is in a chill tone, without any sarcasm like my other posts, because I think you genuinely want to express your point:
Why would they believe Luke had not cheated if Luke himself has admitted?

 

[d---]

I actually find it amusing that the majority of this thread was an argument over whether @baseballjello67 actually forgave him or not, even after Luke said sorry.
Sometimes you guys make no sense

 

[VincentCuber]

Better to be always honest than to be dishonest, and being honest is a very important thing throughout life.

Agreed, but you said you’d forgive himself and then you proceed to PUBLICLY EXPOSE HIM like 20 times. Is that being honest

 

[quanloh]

The only meaningful thing that has been added to this thread since Luke apologized, if there is anything, was my recreation to show people what it looked like. What you are saying is not adding anything.

Ya thank you very much for adding value information with the recreation. Speedcubing is all about honesty, forgiveness, contribution and we are so grateful to have you, as a contributor to the community, showing us all this good quality at once.
Thank you so much. Now let me join your side and contribute. I think I can also recreate how Luke fake it, maybe very slightly more accurate than you did, so people here can know exactly what happened and how he fake it. Do you think I should do it?

 

[d---]

Agreed, but you said you’d forgive himself and then you proceed to PUBLICLY EXPOSE HIM like 20 times. Is that being honest

GUYS GIVE UP AND FORGET IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!!!
Spare my sanity

 

[baseballjello67]

Agreed, but you said you’d forgive himself and then you proceed to PUBLICLY EXPOSE HIM like 20 times. Is that being honest

OH MY GAWD HAVE YOU READ THIS

First off, I've talked to Luke outside of this and I said to him - BEFORE I POSTED MY RECREATION OF THE SOLVE - that I forgave him and only made the video to show people what the video was like because he had deleted the video. I told him that in one week, I will delete the video from this thread, and that I will not talk about this again. I call it forgiveness because I genuinely forgive him, and I made my recreation of his video to show people what it was really like. But clearly, some people can still act like ignorant children and not actually see the point of something meant to show people something.

I have left him alone. I made the video to show people who made posts and hadn't seen the video a chance to see what happened and why I even made this thread in the first place. The video was meant to show straight facts and not put more blame on Luke.

The video was never made to degrade Luke. It was meant to show FACTS. It was meant to show people who hadn't seen the video what actually happened. Since someone clearly can't see the point of the video, why even post when you're adding no value whatsoever to the discussion?


THIS IS WHY I MADE THE VIDEO.

 

[VincentCuber]

GUYS GIVE UP AND FORGET IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!!!
Spare my sanity

maybe we should delete this thread

it is just making us go crazy

 

[baseballjello67]

GUYS GIVE UP AND FORGET IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!!!
Spare my sanity

I'll join your club on that.

maybe we should delete this thread

it is just making us go crazy

If you know the forums, then you know you cannot delete threads.

 

[An Animating Cuber]

I am saying this is in a chill tone, without any sarcasm like my other posts, because I think you genuinely want to express your point:
Why would they believe Luke had not cheated if Luke himself has admitted?

Both @Areli Gómez and @Jorian Meeuse where sepitical that luke cheated even after he posted his apology.

 

[baseballjello67]

Both @Areli Gómez and @Jorian Meeuse where sepitical that luke cheated even after he posted his apology.

And this is why I posted the video! In case any others also wouldn't be able to see it.

 

[quanloh]

After so many discussions, I think you need to re-post your recreation down here in case ppl missed it and think Luke has not cheated.