Is this person faking?

baseballjello67 said:
He deleted the original video. In the original video, he clearly sets up multiple pairs in inspection and then proceeds to celebrate. I should rename the title, “This is a cheater.” And if he is clearly faking in one video, how do we know that his 3 isn’t fake?
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Getting a 3 at that skill level is shocking, and for someone who has been proven to not only reporting but uploading fake solves, I find it pretty hard to believe his 3 is legit

Who knows though, maybe it is
 
baseballjello67 said:
He said that he won't give the footage of the solve to me, which is fair and I accept that. Here is my best recreation of what happened (no reaction, not the same scramble, and not the same time, but basically a close representation of what happened.

WIN_20230413_16_58_45_Pro.mp4

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As someone who saw the original video, your recreation is pretty accurate.
 
ya, so yes he fake it and don't admit, and? we follow him wherever he goes and stop him from cubing? go to his youtube and comment cheater liar under all his videos? come on you are becoming some cyber bullies do you realise that?
The only one he can hurt is only himself, he might gain satisfaction from this action, but at the end of the day he won't improve and can't compete with others.
Grow up.
 
quanloh said:
ya, so yes he fake it and don't admit, and? we follow him wherever he goes and stop him from cubing? go to his youtube and comment cheater liar under all his videos? come on you are becoming some cyber bullies do you realise that?
The only one he can hurt is only himself, he might gain satisfaction from this action, but at the end of the day he won't improve and can't compete with others.
Grow up.
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OH MY GAWD WILL PEOPLE NOT READ THE 75,000 POSTS WITH PEOPLE FORGIVING HIM IN THIS THREAD????
 
baseballjello67 said:
OH MY GAWD WILL PEOPLE NOT READ THE 75,000 POSTS WITH PEOPLE FORGIVING HIM IN THIS THREAD????
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oh ya so he admitted, and what are you guys doing now?

"Oh I will forgive him", "oh we can still friend with him",
"oh look this was how he faked it and now he deleted the evidence"

you call this forgiveness?
 
quanloh said:
oh ya so he admitted, and what are you guys doing now?

"Oh I will forgive him", "oh we can still friend with him",
"oh look this was how he faked it and now he deleted the evidence"

you call this forgiveness?
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As a Christian I feel like the right thing to do is forgive. Everyone makes mistakes and honestly how would you want to be treated in Luke’s shoes. Would you want to be kicked out of the cubing community forever? He admitted to the truth and that is the right thing to do. If you want to be stubborn and say that Luke is and always will be a fraud that would be quite stupid. Who knows someday Luke might someday be World Champion.
 
baseballjello67 said:
He said that he won't give the footage of the solve to me, which is fair and I accept that. Here is my best recreation of what happened (no reaction, not the same scramble, and not the same time, but basically a close representation of what happened.

WIN_20230413_16_58_45_Pro.mp4

drive.google.com drive.google.com
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I agree with Quanloh. Saying “I forgive you but you cheated, you cheated, you cheated” is not forgiveness. Just leave him alone. Thank you.
 
Cubinginatree said:
As a Christian I feel like the right thing to do is forgive. Everyone makes mistakes and honestly how would you want to be treated in Luke’s shoes. Would you want to be kicked out of the cubing community forever? He admitted to the truth and that is the right thing to do. If you want to be stubborn and say that Luke is and always will be a fraud that would be quite stupid. Who knows someday Luke might someday be World Champion.
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Don't use your faith to defend yourself, don't pull the whole Christian community in.

Do you even read? What I mean is, the best forgiveness is not saying "I forgive you", that's you forgiving yourself for being angry/triggered, the best forgiveness is move on, it always is.

Move on.
 
quanloh said:
Don't use your faith to defend yourself, don't pull the whole Christian community in.

Do you even read? What I mean is, the best forgiveness is not saying "I forgive you", that's you forgiving yourself for being angry/triggered, the best forgiveness is move on, it always is.

Move on.
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How is he defending himself? He is defending Luke, if anyone.
 
quanloh said:
let's forgive him shall we?
I think he deserve our forgiveness.
No one doesn't deserve to be forgiven.
But can we just talk about how he faked it?
why is he trying to fake it?
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how could I forgive @baseballjello67?

I saw how he solved some pairs before starting the solve.

I trusted him but now there is only a broken heart
 
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  1. Luke faked it.
  2. @baseballjello67 exposed him.
  3. People tried to forgive Luke before Luke admit.
  4. Luke sort of denied.
  5. People discussed.
  6. Luke admited.
  7. People forgive.
  8. People discuss.
  9. Luke remove original video.
  10. More discussion, repeat forgiveness.
  11. @baseballjello67 try to recreate the fake.
  12. More discussion, repeat forgiveness.
Excuse me, you are telling me No. 11 is an act of forgiveness?

What I repeatedly try to express is,
If you or anyone truly want to forgive someone,
the only way is to accept the apologies and MOVE ON.
 
quanloh said:
oh ya so he admitted, and what are you guys doing now?

"Oh I will forgive him", "oh we can still friend with him",
"oh look this was how he faked it and now he deleted the evidence"

you call this forgiveness?
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First off, I've talked to Luke outside of this and I said to him - BEFORE I POSTED MY RECREATION OF THE SOLVE - that I forgave him and only made the video to show people what the video was like because he had deleted the video. I told him that in one week, I will delete the video from this thread, and that I will not talk about this again. I call it forgiveness because I genuinely forgive him, and I made my recreation of his video to show people what it was really like. But clearly, some people can still act like ignorant children and not actually see the point of something meant to show people something.
EthanMCuber said:
I agree with Quanloh. Saying “I forgive you but you cheated, you cheated, you cheated” is not forgiveness. Just leave him alone. Thank you.
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I have left him alone. I made the video to show people who made posts and hadn't seen the video a chance to see what happened and why I even made this thread in the first place. The video was meant to show straight facts and not put more blame on Luke.
joshisbored said:
leave him alone, and delete the thread in general.
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I can't delete the thread, but maybe a mod could close it? As said earlier, I have forgave him and I told him that after I posted my recreation of the solve, I would not mention it to him. I understand that it was a mistake and he has learned - the hard way - from it.
quanloh said:
But can we just talk about how he faked it?
why is he trying to fake it?
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I can't answer for Luke or anyone in this case, but probably just to feel better about yourself or attention. There are much better ways to do that than this.
Cubinginatree said:
As a Christian I feel like the right thing to do is forgive. Everyone makes mistakes and honestly how would you want to be treated in Luke’s shoes. Would you want to be kicked out of the cubing community forever? He admitted to the truth and that is the right thing to do. If you want to be stubborn and say that Luke is and always will be a fraud that would be quite stupid. Who knows someday Luke might someday be World Champion.
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I am not saying that he is a fraud and will always be. Has there been a single person who has posted in this thread that has said, "I do not and will never forgive Luke." No! But I support your ideology :)
quanloh said:
  1. Luke faked it.
  2. @baseballjello67 exposed him.
  3. People tried to forgive Luke before Luke admit.
  4. Luke sort of denied.
  5. People discussed.
  6. Luke admited.
  7. People forgive.
  8. People discuss.
  9. Luke remove original video.
  10. More discussion, repeat forgiveness.
  11. @baseballjello67 try to recreate the fake.
  12. More discussion, repeat forgiveness.
Excuse me, you are telling me No. 11 is an act of forgiveness?

What I repeatedly try to express is,
If you or anyone truly want to forgive someone,
the only way is to accept the apologies and MOVE ON.
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The video was never made to degrade Luke. It was meant to show FACTS. It was meant to show people who hadn't seen the video what actually happened. Since someone clearly can't see the point of the video, why even post when you're adding no value whatsoever to the discussion?
Areli Gómez said:
He very well may not be faking. Even when I averaged 20 I still had a 12 second solve once.
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Jorian Meeuse said:
Ok yeah I wish I could see the video
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THIS IS WHY I MADE THE VIDEO.
 
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