Intuitive last layer?

[DAE_JA_VOO]

We can all solve LL using algs, that's easy, but is there simple-ish way to do it intuitively? I don't mind if it's slow. thanks

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

First, CO with R'D'RD, then EO with MDM'D'MD2M' and then it's inverse, then CP with R'D'R and it's inverse then EP with MDM' and it's inverse

 

[WaffleCake]

If it's intuitive then it isn't really a way...

 

[Samlambert]

If it's intuitive then it isn't really a way...

Then would you mind telling me what (intuitive) F2L is? (Fridrich/Petrus)

 

[Tetris Cube]

Intuitive F2L really isn't that intuitive. You use the same system every time, it's not really intuitive at all. What it means, probably, is that you can see the piece insertions and setups in your mind, rather than just blindly applying algorithms. Petrus F2L is much more intuitive (the 2x2x3 step) as there's really no method to it, and you can start expanding from any piece to make the block. After edge flipping in Petrus, the rest of F2L isn't very intuitive.

 

[d4m4s74]

sometimes when I see a possible PLL skip but I see I will lose it with my normal algs, then I just use commutators, I don't know if I can really call it intuitive but it works

 

[JLarsen]

sometimes when I see a possible PLL skip but I see I will lose it with my normal algs, then I just use commutators, I don't know if I can really call it intuitive but it works

I like to call those "pre-OLL-PLL skips" =] I'll ussualy use it only when I get the 2 adjacent corners cases during OLL. Then I just use a Sune/Anti-sune with my Right and left hands, and I'm done my ll. It can be hard to recognize sometimes though. It's essentially a really really easy 1lll case.

 

[deadalnix]

Using commutators, you can solve your LL easily. But not as effiscient as a speedcubing method.

 

[soccerking813]

If you don't count commutators as algorithms, then I can solve the last layer intuitively. You can do a 3-corner cycle using commutators.

 

[qqwref]

The 'do each of the four steps with intuitive commutators' method works fine. You can also do the LL semi-intuitively. What I mean is, suppose you know a bunch of PLLs that only affect two edges and two corners. So then if you see a LL with just two edges and two corners unsolved, instead of doing it in two steps you can often just set it up to a PLL and finish your LL in a creative efficient way.

If you want to do intuitive LL efficiently every time, I recommend doing the corners and edges separately. If you know commutators and intuitive flipping algorithms, it's actually not that bad. Of course you should solve orientation and permutation at the same time whenever possible.

 

[MistArts]

If it's intuitive then it isn't really a way...

That's called freestyle.