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I encourage you to learn blind solving

Can you do 3BLD?

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Mischiiii

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I will definitely go for it someday but since i have to learn algs for it i rather start with 2x2, 5x5 or square 1 .

Would you guys recommend setting up a cube with the letters on it to learn?
 

Habsen

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I will definitely go for it someday but since i have to learn algs for it i rather start with 2x2, 5x5 or square 1 .
You don't have to learn new algs for the Old Pochmann method if you already know T, Y and R perms. And the setup moves are very short and intuitive.

Would you guys recommend setting up a cube with the letters on it to learn?
I guess I wouldn't do that. Although it makes things easier in the beginning, it doesn't force you to learn the sticker/piece to letter translation. This will probably take the most time during your memo when you start blindsolving but it will get much better after a couple of days.
 

Mischiiii

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You don't have to learn new algs for the Old Pochmann method if you already know T, Y and R perms. And the setup moves are very short and intuitive.


I guess I wouldn't do that. Although it makes things easier in the beginning, it doesn't force you to learn the sticker/piece to letter translation. This will probably take the most time during your memo when you start blindsolving but it will get much better after a couple of days.
Ah okay. I knew you have to know those but i thought you needed a bunch more. Since i know full PLL I’m pretty much set.

What recourses do you recommend to learn BLD ?
 

Habsen

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What recourses do you recommend to learn BLD ?
I think JPerms video is a good start. It also has a lot of important stuff written down in the description.

I recommend to learn the method and then do sighted solves with it until you feel comfortable. Afterwards, partial solves (edges/corners only) are very useful to incrementally work your way up to full blind solves. Writing your memo down can also help in the beginning in case you are struggling with that.
 
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jdh3000

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Ah okay. I knew you have to know those but i thought you needed a bunch more. Since i know full PLL I’m pretty much set.

What recourses do you recommend to learn BLD ?
Just 3 algs, one for sides, one for corners and one rarely used for parity, which only comes if the the number of sides and corners aren't an ecen number.

Tge algorithms aren't too difficult, lining up the pieces aren't too difficult, it just takes getting used to it.

I'm no expert, I've done 2 successful blind solves, but go through these all on a regular basis. I feel like I could do it again, it just takes me a while to write down all the pieces and come up with a mnemonic device to remember it.
If you are good at that ypu shouldn't have any trouble.

It's not AS difficult to do as someone who's never done it thinks it is. It is something that can actually be easier in a lot if ways than tge beginner's method.

I learned what I did from Jperm on youtube, he has some clear explanations on there.
 

PetrusQuber

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If you already know full PLL, you can use the T Perm, Y Perm, R Perm, AND the J Perms too. It’s not too hard, and it’s easier to setup. Why waste setup moves and time when you already know a better way to do that? Take if you were solving C, with B as the buffer. J Perm, done. However, without them, you get l2 D L2 T Perm L2 D’ l2.
 

AbsoRuud

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If you already know full PLL, you can use the T Perm, Y Perm, R Perm, AND the J Perms too. It’s not too hard, and it’s easier to setup. Why waste setup moves and time when you already know a better way to do that? Take if you were solving C, with B as the buffer. J Perm, done. However, without them, you get l2 D L2 T Perm L2 D’ l2.
C is relatively easy. I got stuck on bottom left, top left and bottom right. (For me, Q, T and K, because I don't use speffz.) So that made me decide to learn the J Perm, and then I realised it's one of the CMLL I already knew. XD
 

Nilsibert

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Would it be a bad idea to learn 3-style without having experience with OP/M2?
I tried to learn BLD with OP/M2 before and got tired of it because the constant setup into Y perm just felt boring and slow
 

Habsen

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Would it be a bad idea to learn 3-style without having experience with OP/M2?
I don't think so. I also didn't like OP for corners and switched to 3-style quite early. You don't have to learn full 3-style to use it in your solves. Just learn the parity algs and use them as a replacement until you know the commutators. They can be learned in one or two days as they are mostly setups to Ja, Jb and Y perms. Afterwards, you can learn the commutators for a new sticker whenever you like to. Right now, I only know the algs for all the A, B and D stickers. Although this is only 14% of full 3-style for corners, I use more than one commutator per solve on average, because you can chose one of these targets whenever you break into a new cycle.

M2 on the other hand is quite fast, especially when you learn some commutators for the bad cases. I highly recommend looking at Josh Weimers Advanced M2 Tutorials on Youtube.
 
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2b2f117bdd

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You can learn BLD at any point, dont let your speed affect you.
The best tutorial is Noah's. I'm on mobile right now so i cant link, but it would be the top result for 'Noah 3bld tutorial'. He teaches OP for corners and M2 for edges.





Lucky Patcher Kodi nox
 
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