How to be sub 20

[SuperNerd]

lol here's my time when i'm all warmed up:

cross-3 seconds
f2l-9 seconds
oll-4 seconds
pll-7 seconds
total time= a sub 20 fail

WOW. 4 second OLL and a 7 SECOND PLL????? dude, work on your recognition. Just, just, sit down with a cube, and stare at each and every PLL until you fine something that you can recognize instantly that is unique to that PLL.

 

[vcuber13]

lol here's my time when i'm all warmed up:

cross-3 seconds
f2l-9 seconds
oll-4 seconds
pll-7 seconds
total time= a sub 20 fail

WOW. 4 second OLL and a 7 SECOND PLL????? dude, work on your recognition. Just, just, sit down with a cube, and stare at each and every PLL until you fine something that you can recognize instantly that is unique to that PLL.

He might do 2-look PLL in which case could make him about 7 seconds

 

[Rosette]

By the time I'm done with F2L

I'm like 15 seconds

I should practice looking ahead becuase

I insert F2L pairs like a maniac

I bet 5 seconds are from finding where the pairs are...

 

[vcuber13]

By the time I'm done with F2L

I'm like 15 seconds

I should practice looking ahead becuase

I insert F2L pairs like a maniac

I bet 5 seconds are from finding where the pairs are...

It depends on your cross and LL

Like if you have a 15 second F2L and a 20 second LL, then you need to practice your LL.

What about is your average?

If you sub-25 then yes, start learning looking ahead

 

[Rosette]

My average is about 26

3 cross

15 F2L

3 to 5 OLL

4 PLL

 

[Ranzha]

My average went down to 22 (finally).

Cross: 2-2.5.

F2L (without x-cross): 13ish.

OLL: 4ish.

PLL: 3ish. (2-look for G-perms. I don't want to learn them.)

 

[Anthony]

(2-look for G-perms. I don't want to get fast.)

Fixed.

Orly?

 

[Tim Major]

Cross: 2.5 (2.5)
F2l: 11 (8.5)
OLL: 13.5 (2.5)
PLL: 20 (6.5)

What's wrong with that^ On PLL, my recog sucks, and my execution sucks even though I've relearnt all the bad ones except N's (I can't find any n's that I can sub 2.5, not even sub 3.5)

I realise I need new PLLs, and I should finish my OLLs, but how can I practise PLL? PLL time attacks? But that doesn't cover recog. inb4practise Should I practise last slot last layer?

 

[Rosette]

Cross: 2.5 (2.5)
F2l: 11 (8.5)
OLL: 13.5 (2.5)
PLL: 20 (6.5)

What's wrong with that^ On PLL, my recog sucks, and my execution sucks even though I've relearnt all the bad ones except N's (I can't find any n's that I can sub 2.5, not even sub 3.5)

I realise I need new PLLs, and I should finish my OLLs, but how can I practise PLL? PLL time attacks? But that doesn't cover recog. inb4practise Should I practise last slot last layer?

N perms screw up my fingers for some reason..

Go slow on your OLL and try to predict your PLL

That helps my recognition little bit

 

[bobso2]

I think that I already pointed out that half were NOT hard cases.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and your "acquaintance level" with him DID matter, because if you didn't have an idea who he was, then be honest, you wouldn't care.

A few things.
1) I know his video, and I believe it to be a good one, which is why I was asking why you did not think it was a good video.

2) It would be very close minded of me to consider a tutorial as good just because I am friends with the person making it. That is same kind of thing fanboys do, and I can assure you I am not a fanboy.

3) Whether they are hard cases or not is a matter of opinion, the person making the tutorial (theWestonian) believed those to be the hardest cases, so he taught them. If you think they aren't hard, you cannot judge the validity of the tutorial based on that. The most you could say is that you don't think he taught the material that should be taught.

4) I do care, even if I didn't know him, because the pointless lampooning of videos because you don't agree with them is stupid and ignorant.

It still remains that your opinion of his video lends nothing to this discussion of how to be Sub-20, nor does my logic and reasoning supporting my opinion lend anything to it. So I will drop it.

can you refer me to this video?

thanks

 

[jms_gears1]

Cross: 2.5 (2.5)
F2l: 11 (8.5)
OLL: 13.5 (2.5)
PLL: 20 (6.5)

What's wrong with that^ On PLL, my recog sucks, and my execution sucks even though I've relearnt all the bad ones except N's (I can't find any n's that I can sub 2.5, not even sub 3.5)

I realise I need new PLLs, and I should finish my OLLs, but how can I practise PLL? PLL time attacks? But that doesn't cover recog. inb4practise Should I practise last slot last layer?

I know of a great N perm :rolleyes:, It takes more moves than needed but if you like T perms...

do:
BRD'R' T-perm RDR'B'

i actually dont do BRDR or RDRB i do an x rotation so its faster.

 

[aronpm]

I know of a great N perm, It takes more moves than needed but if you like T perms...

do:
BRD'R' T-perm RDR'B'

i actually dont do BRDR or RDRB i do an x rotation so its faster.

That is a horrible N perm. The only thing that would make it worse is if it had L turns.

R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' F R' F' R U' R.

For the other N, I use [R U R' U] J perm [U' R U' R']. Long, but it's RUF.

 

[rubiknewbie]

I use Pochmann's for both N. It is highly poppable when wrong force is applied but very sexy when done correctly. These algorithms are very difficult to write down because only my fingers know them.

R’ U R U’ R F’ U’ F R U R’ F R’ F’ R U’ R

R U’ R’ U l U F U’ R’ F’ R U’ R U l’ U R’

 

[Raffael]

hey guys/ gals, I'm looking for some opinions on what i should focus my practicing on.

I did some splitting-up-my-solves today:

averages of the steps were:
F2L including cross: 12.2
LL: 6.5


Some additional facts:
- I use the Fridrich-method with 24/57 OLL's and full PLL.
- i had to use 2-look OLL in 56% of the solves
- cross without look-ahead for first pair: 1.85 avg
- cross with look-ahead for first pair: 3.2 avg
- I average 2.97 for PLL (see spoiler below for complete list)

the above breakdown (12.2 + 6.6 = 18.8) is pretty close to my normal average.

PLL-spoiler:

Spoiler

A1: 2.38, std: 0,24
A2: 2.43, std: 0,35
E: 3.45, std: 0,33
Z: 3.29, std: 0,27
H: 2.78, std: 0,33
U1: 1.90, std: 0,19
U2: 2.04, std: 0,16
J1: 1.79, std: 0,19
J2: 2.53, std: 0,31
T: 2.42, std: 0,25
R1: 2.88, std: 0,33
R2: 3.23, std: 0,21
F: 3.43, std: 0,52
G1: 3.29, std: 0,42
G2: 2.76, std: 0,29
G3: 2.84, std: 0,20
G4: 2.84, std: 0,17
V: 2.73, std: 0,12
N1: 3.91, std: 0,23
N2: 3.66, std: 0,34
Y: 2.86, std: 0,20

Total Average: 2,97

so, what do you think I should focus on?

 

[iSpinz]

I think you should work on getting your PLL's at least sub-3 for hard ones(ie. N and G) and sub-2 for easy ones(ie. T(that should be sub-1.5), F, U, A, ect.)

 

[nlCuber22]

Raffael: Your H perm times are lmao.
If you're doing M2' using double-trigger ring/middle finger with your right hand, I would recommend doing U' and U2' instead of U and U2.

 

[andrewunz1]

hey can anyone help me with this problem.
I was at moose lodge open 2010 and in the 1st round i got a 17.89 avg. but in second round i got a 21.xx avg. I'm sub-20 most of the time but then for some reason i got 20.xx solves which i see as weird
any advice?

 

[Carson]

hey can anyone help me with this problem.
I was at moose lodge open 2010 and in the 1st round i got a 17.89 avg. but in second round i got a 21.xx avg. I'm sub-20 most of the time but then for some reason i got 20.xx solves which i see as weird
any advice?

Don't get nervous?

 

[shelley]

Practice moar

 

[Away]

Uhh... I need help getting faster D:. Just started speed-cubing a couple weeks ago.. Experienced a lot of growth in the first couple days but, I seemed to stop improving.
Currently, it takes me 4-6 Seconds for Cross, 12-15 Seconds for the F2L(not including cross time), and 14 seconds for LL. I create a cross on the last layer and use a OLL with cross already in it, then PLL Corners and Edges separately. Would learning the rest of OLL and PLL dramatically improve my time? =/ 34 Second average altogether =/