[Help Thread] Multi-Blind Discussion


Posted on the accomplishments thread, but might as well document it here too.

5/6 Multi-Blind in 52:30.28 [43:18.31]

The DNF was because the stupid Shengshou V1 I used locked up BADLY and it threw me off the algorithm I was doing. Would have been a perfect score otherwise.

I managed to optimize my rooms even further this time (in comparison to my last 5/5 attempt, exceeded by 2min) by making my images interact more with each other and while I didn't necessarily review less, I reviewed smarter.

I'm learning to trust my memory for the first couple rooms a bit more, and saving the first review for when I'm done with the 3rd cube. Naturally, my goal is to review in packs of 2 at this point, which should save even more time and leave me plenty of room (lol) for safety.

Also, I have settled on a way to structure my rooms. My first set of rooms is always on the house I grew up in. Until recently, I would pick a random place to experiment with but this was too messy and for the long run it would prove to be a waste of time.

So I had this idea: I will use the houses I lived in so far, and in the order I moved into them (The perks of living a Gipsy life lol).

Since my MBLD progression will obviously be very gradual, this makes sense. The more I practice, the better those rooms will be and the more use I can make of them. I foresee myself being able to fit at least 15 cubes before I need some more optimization / extra rooms.
 
Fábio De'Rose said:


I'm learning to trust my memory for the first couple rooms a bit more, and saving the first review for when I'm done with the 3rd cube. Naturally, my goal is to review in packs of 2 at this point, which should save even more time and leave me plenty of room (lol) for safety.
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I used to memo/review a lot like the way your describing, but then one day I decided to just memo all my cubes and do one big review at the end. Once I switched I saw a DRAMATIC drop in my time per cube. I think that one big review session works better for attempts less then 10 cubes. I think you should give this a try and see if you like it.
 
You know what... This is so crazy it might even work :P

Seeing world class MBLD, they tend to group their cubes in 4 or 6 packs, so it makes sense and seems very much doable.

I'll try this and report back, for sure. Thanks for the suggestion!

Christopher Cabrera said:
I used to memo/review a lot like the way your describing, but then one day I decided to just memo all my cubes and do one big review at the end. Once I switched I saw a DRAMATIC drop in my time per cube. I think that one big review session works better for attempts less then 10 cubes. I think you should give this a try and see if you like it.
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I'm surely not world class (even dropped out of the NR-Top10), but maybe two things:

1. I think I have a very short-term- and a bit-more-longer-term-memory. When I review a memo to early, it doesn't make its way in the longer memory and I have to review it again. I normally memo 3 or 4 cubes together and then make the review - and they go in the longer memory (for more than 30 min) quite well (sometimes the last one is critical). Don't know how it works for others, but maybe there is a time-span (and/or a amount of memo) for everyone, which is perfect for the review.

2. Don't try to be too safe. I made the experience in the last weeks on Megaminx blind, that I progressed surprisingly, when I just went for it: When I did the edges-memo in the past, I made the first review after 8-10 pairs - and thought that I couldn't do better. Then I tried to memo them all (15 pairs) and it worked fine after very view attempts. I think that my brain arranged itself with the task and adjusted the memo-speed - or was simply more concentrated :D
OK, accuracy dropped a bit what would be not too good in multi, but I think it's easier, getting fast and then reduce speed for accuracy than being accurate and then speed up.
 
My biggest acomplishment ever in turms of speed
37/45 55:25! [35:51]
Analysis:
1-8 5:25 good
9-16 6:05 awful
17-24 5:08 amazing
1-24 review 5:56 awful
25-32 4:53 amazing, PB for a set of 8
33-38 3:53 amazing
39-42 2:52 bad
43-44 1:04 meh
45 35s too safe
Memo: 35:51 47.8s/cube very good
Solve: 19:33 26s/cube mindblowing
Total 55:25 1:13.8/cube wow
DNFs were minor 3cycles
 
12/12 59:39.52 [33:22.31]

Pretty solid throughout most of the attempt, but I had some pretty bad pauses on my last 3 cubes. I got nervous during those pauses because I knew I was probably getting close on the time. That made the pauses worse :p. I estimate that with out the pauses I probably could of gotten sub-55:00. All in all I am super happy with this result though.
 
9/9 MBLD in 17min 38.05s

Slow attempt but whatever, still beat my previous fastest 9/9 from a few months ago

1. 0.241
04/06/2017 23:02:27
U2 R2 D F2 D2 B2 D' R2 B2 U2 B' R' D U L' B' D2 L D L2 F' Rw' Uw

2. 0.264
04/06/2017 23:02:50
D2 B2 D L2 U2 L2 B2 U' R2 U2 B2 F' L2 R' F2 D' B2 R2 D U2 Fw' Uw

3. 0.278
04/06/2017 23:03:06
F2 U2 B' U2 L2 B R2 B' L2 D2 L' F2 D' U' F' U' L' R B L' Fw' Uw2

4. (0.287)
04/06/2017 23:03:20
D2 U2 L' F2 R2 U2 F2 R2 D2 F2 D' L' B2 L2 D' U' L' F L R2 Fw' Uw2

5. 0.254
04/06/2017 23:03:40
B2 L2 U R2 B2 D2 F2 R2 U' L2 B' R' U R2 F' R U2 R' U' B U Rw Uw'

6. 0.235
04/06/2017 23:03:53
B2 U' B2 L2 U L2 D B2 D2 L R F' R' F2 D U2 L' D' B R' Fw

7. 0.285
04/06/2017 23:04:07
D' L2 F2 L2 D R2 D L2 B2 L B U' B D2 L B' F2 D R D' Rw2 Uw'

8. (0.226)
04/06/2017 23:04:20
R2 D L2 B2 R2 U' B2 D F2 R2 U' R' D2 L' U B R2 D R D' Fw

9. 0.286
04/06/2017 23:04:38
B2 L2 D L2 D' L2 D B2 F2 D R2 B' L D' U' L B D F' R' U2 Rw Uw'
 
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9/9 MBLD in 15min 50.50s

Much better

1. (0.221)
05/06/2017 23:57:13
F2 D2 R D2 B2 R2 U2 R F2 D2 B2 D' F L' B2 D' R B2 L F D' Fw' Uw

2. 0.253
05/06/2017 23:57:40
B' D2 F2 U2 L2 D2 U2 B D2 R2 U F2 L' B' D B F2 D2 L' U' Rw

3. 0.254
05/06/2017 23:58:03
L' F2 D2 U2 R B2 R2 U2 L2 B' U B' L' B' R' F' D' U' B2 U Fw Uw2

4. 0.281
05/06/2017 23:58:18
F2 R2 F2 R2 U2 F2 U2 F' U2 F' L' D2 F R2 U' B' U' L R F' U Fw' Uw'

5. (1.001)
05/06/2017 23:58:32
D2 R' D2 L B2 L B2 D2 L U B2 F' R U' F2 U' B F2 D F Rw Uw'

6. 0.281
05/06/2017 23:58:56
L2 U2 B R2 D2 B' R2 B' L2 D2 R' B L2 B D' L' F U2 B U' L2 Fw' Uw

7. 0.286
05/06/2017 23:59:10
D2 U' L2 B2 L2 F2 D2 U' R2 U2 R' D B' R' D F' U2 R2 D L' Uw

8. 0.270
05/06/2017 23:59:24
D2 L2 B2 F2 U F2 U B2 L2 D B D B' U2 R D U' B2 R B Rw Uw'

9. 0.272
05/06/2017 23:59:50
L2 U' R2 D2 L2 U2 B2 U B2 F U F L' B2 U2 B F L' B' F' R Fw' Uw2
 
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New PB
40/42 59:32
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4/9 1:54:09.74[1:32:10.83]

Really slow, I was originally going for sub-hour, but my memo was going badly, so I decided to try and go for slow but accurate. lol

Lots of flipped edges and 5c cycles, I don't know why.

I reviewed all the cubes like three times, so memo didn't feel too bad.
I might try it again with my other slow 2 review system. (Memo two cubes, review them, and then review everything previously including those cubes)
 
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