[Help Thread] Multi-Blind Discussion

[tseitsei]

I have a couple questions for anyone who can do 20+ cubes sub-hour:

1. How fast did you improve from smaller numbers to bigger numbers? Did your MBLD improvement correlate with 3BLD improvement, or did one improve more than the other?

2. Do you use 3-style for MBLD? If not, is it because you don't use 3-style for 3BLD either, or to have safer execution?

Thanks!

1. I improved VERY quickly in MBLD because I didn't start practising MBLD before I was already sub-50 at 3BLD and also decent at 4&5BLD. And after I started I was able to do 17 cubes after a few tries to get used to MBLD and was able to get 21 cubes quite easily also. Improving to 25 however took much more practise and time management.

2. I use full 3-style for MBLD. But method isn't really important in MBLD... I could probably execute (almost) as fast with M2/OP since the limiting factor is still by far the recall speed and not turning speed...

 

[Torch]

1. I improved VERY quickly in MBLD because I didn't start practising MBLD before I was already sub-50 at 3BLD and also decent at 4&5BLD. And after I started I was able to do 17 cubes after a few tries to get used to MBLD and was able to get 21 cubes quite easily also. Improving to 25 however took much more practise and time management.

2. I use full 3-style for MBLD. But method isn't really important in MBLD... I could probably execute (almost) as fast with M2/OP since the limiting factor is still by far the recall speed and not turning speed...

I would like to ask one other question: what's your memo schedule? I do packs of four like this:

Memo 1
Memo 2
Refresh 1-2
Memo 3
Memo 4
Refresh 3-4
Refresh 1-4

and then a final refresh of everything at the end before the 3BLD. I only review a cube if I'm uncertain about the memo.

I hate to keep bothering you but I am interested in how the fast people do things

 

[tseitsei]

I would like to ask one other question: what's your memo schedule? I do packs of four like this:

Memo 1
Memo 2
Refresh 1-2
Memo 3
Memo 4
Refresh 3-4
Refresh 1-4

and then a final refresh of everything at the end before the 3BLD. I only review a cube if I'm uncertain about the memo.

I hate to keep bothering you but I am interested in how the fast people do things

I don't mind answering I like to share what I have learned over the years.

I do my 25 cube attempts like this:

memo 1-4
refresh 1-4
memo 5-8
refresh 5-8
memo 9-12
refresh 9-12
memo 12-16
refresh 12-16

BIG REFRESH 1-16

memo 17-20
refresh 17-20
memo 21-24

Normal 3BLD on 25

Execute 21-24
Execute 17-20
Execute rest in order starting from 1

 

[Meneghetti]

18/20 1:46:01.68[1:27:50.01]

Spoiler

ultra bj time, ok result
2 flipped corners and one messed up execution

 

[Berd]

18/20 1:46:01.68[1:27:50.01]

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCtQ9WJmFaM

ultra bj time, ok result
2 flipped corners and one messed up execution

Nice! Beats my 17/20.

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[Meneghetti]

Nice! Beats my 17/20.

Thanks!
What was your memo time?

 

[Berd]

Thanks!
What was your memo time?

Around and hour and a half. This was when I only did 5 cube mutis tho haha.

 

[CyanSandwich]

22/26 1:02:27.05[35:56.86]

2-twist, 2 moves, 1 slice move, 4c/4e.

I think I'll get some decent 3BLD practice in before my next attempt.

 

[DGCubes]

Very very sad... I just got a 3/7 multi in 56:10.423 [39:28.145]. I guess I better get a 6/6 before I try a 7/7, especially considering my PB is a 4/4. Although I did get a 5/6 once that should have been a 6/6, haha.

 

[Torch]

9/9 in 31:56.71[~21:00]. Memo was pretty meh, but execution was good, and of course accuracy is always great. I still need to get a little faster to do 17 sub-hour.

 

[verdito]

first multiBLD attempt ever, and in competition! got 0/3 in 25:xx, looking forward to the next time

 

[josh42732]

Just got 20 guanlongs in hopes of doing that much one day, but dont know how to get from where I am to there. Would just going out there and trying it work? I did that for 4BLD, and on the first attempt, I got a success. How should I progress from 3-4 MBLD to over 10?

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[tseitsei]

First of all being decently fast and accurate at normal 3bld is very important.

Other important thing is to keep pushing yourself. If you are left with some time at the end of your attempt you should probably try more cubes next time. That's how you improve.

Also be familiar with your memo route and have a good easy to visualize image/word for EVERY letter pair

 

[OliverPrice]

Hey guys! I am fairly new to the forums so if this is not in the right place please let me know! I have just got an official 10/11 in 51 mins, very silly lock up on that 1st cube that caused me a wrong turn (shengshou aurora...) anyway, at home i can do 14 -15 cubes in an hour with about 12-13 points consistently on those attempts...i am now wanting to push for that official 15+ anyone have any practice tips? like high-risk-speed attempts? any info or just banter is appreciated

 

[Torch]

4/5 in 13:24. My first time with only one review (of the first 4 cubes). I had very few recall issues, and the only mistake was a setup move problem.

Hey guys! I am fairly new to the forums so if this is not in the right place please let me know! I have just got an official 10/11 in 51 mins, very silly lock up on that 1st cube that caused me a wrong turn (shengshou aurora...) anyway, at home i can do 14 -15 cubes in an hour with about 12-13 points consistently on those attempts...i am now wanting to push for that official 15+ anyone have any practice tips? like high-risk-speed attempts? any info or just banter is appreciated

I'm in about the same situation as you (though you seem to be more accurate than I am). Right now I'm trying smaller attempts with less review than usual, so that I can hopefully start reviewing less in bigger attempts; maybe you could try that.

 

[OliverPrice]

4/5 in 13:24. My first time with only one review (of the first 4 cubes). I had very few recall issues, and the only mistake was a setup move problem.



I'm in about the same situation as you (though you seem to be more accurate than I am). Right now I'm trying smaller attempts with less review than usual, so that I can hopefully start reviewing less in bigger attempts; maybe you could try that.

That's actually a really good idea..so you're trying to train yourself to get close to "one review" memo? Do you find that you can actually remember more than you think with little reviewing?

 

[Torch]

That's actually a really good idea..so you're trying to train yourself to get close to "one review" memo? Do you find that you can actually remember more than you think with little reviewing?

Yeah, I was surprised how well I could remember in my attempt this morning. I don't plan on trying to learn to do a big multi "one-pass", but I want to review only once every 4 cubes instead of every 2.

 

[OliverPrice]

Hmm that is something to try, yeahh 4 cubes sounds good, i review every 3..when you review do you retrace over each cube? Or just sit there and recall it?

 

[verdito]

a lot of practice and improvement in last few days

wednesday: 3/3 in 15:xx
thursday: 3/3 in 10:13 with the scrambles i failed at competition, 2/3 in 9:xx (messed up 1st cube), 2/3 in 10:59.29[6:44.99] (messed up an edge comm by an U)
today friday: 2/4 in 19:xx (didn't memo a flipped edge and got parity wrong in memo, can't recall mistakes in the other one), and finally 3/4 in 18:13.73[11:39.50] by 2 twisted corners i forgot to execute in the last cube

the 3/4 is in my opinion the best accomplishment cuz 2 twisted corners is not that much of a mistake

 

[OliverPrice]

a lot of practice and improvement in last few days

wednesday: 3/3 in 15:xx
thursday: 3/3 in 10:13 with the scrambles i failed at competition, 2/3 in 9:xx (messed up 1st cube), 2/3 in 10:59.29[6:44.99] (messed up an edge comm by an U)
today friday: 2/4 in 19:xx (didn't memo a flipped edge and got parity wrong in memo, can't recall mistakes in the other one), and finally 3/4 in 18:13.73[11:39.50] by 2 twisted corners i forgot to execute in the last cube

the 3/4 is in my opinion the best accomplishment cuz 2 twisted corners is not that much of a mistake

Great job man! It's also great you're improving..you could probably shoot up the number of cubes soon no? your time per cube seems really good for your 3/3's so take a little longer when doing maybe 5 cubes..But anyway good job